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| Author: | sik97zook [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Need more power! |
Hi all i would like some more power in my 97 coil 1.3L sierra, it has a set of 30" maxxis bighorns on it. yet i have a budget of $1000 give or take. 
i dont no if i should go for a 
*different engine mayb? *bolt some thing on to my stock 1.3(eg turbo?) * or keep the 1.3 and change my gears Is there any thing els that could do? Thanks for any help im a bit of a noobie at this stuff. 
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| Author: | Rusho [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
Deal with it for now...save your pennies and do a 1.6 efi conversion 
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| Author: | monley [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
I asked the pretty much the same question for my jimny. Everyone told me to fix the gearing. |
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| Author: | sik97zook [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
Rusho wrote: Deal with it for now...save your pennies and do a 1.6 efi conversion
how much would that be worth all up? |
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| Author: | inbits [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
I'd be getting gears it will make the world of difference on and offroad though it won't be a power house it will be much more drivable |
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| Author: | Rusho [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
sik97zook wrote: Rusho wrote: Deal with it for now...save your pennies and do a 1.6 efi conversion how much would that be worth all up? How long is a piece of string??? You have the right fuel tank, but you will also need: -Adaptor kit -Vit style in tank fuel pump -Loom modification -90 degree adaptor for dizzy -Various hoses/lines etc If your not handy with the tools this could easily cost in excess of $2-3k. Gearing would be a cheaper alternative, but you have a coily so  Tfer case swap is simple enough but again, you need a few things. Diff gears...not 100% if what you could do there
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
monkey wrote: I asked the pretty much the same question for my jimny.
Everyone told me to fix the gearing. +993 |
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| Author: | Ben_Sierra [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
Gearing! Even with a 1.6 the gearing will still be all wrong, and it'll still be nowhere near as good as properly geared with a 1.3! |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
For $500 you should be able to buy a 1.0L transfer case and fit it to your coily with the necessary mods and get a good gearing reduction to suit your 30's. Use the other $500 to get some extractors and a 2" exhaust system and thats as good as you can get on your budget. 1.6L EFi swap will set you back $2-4K. |
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| Author: | DMAC [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
Don't discount a cam regrind best power mod I have done. Coupled with 2" exhaust is a nice combo. Regrind cost around $150 - $170. Gears don't give you more power it changes your mechanical advantage giving the perception you have more power but they should be on your list. Like most other responses 1.6 would be the way to go for power. Doing one at the moment cost around $2k but it can have it hassles too. |
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| Author: | whincup [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
DMAC wrote: Gears don't give you more power it changes your mechanical advantage giving the perception you have more power but they should be on your list.
depends where you measure the power from. it does actually give you more power at the wheels... |
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| Author: | bagnkat [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
I have a coily with 30s. My vote is for gearing too. |
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| Author: | Ben_Sierra [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 6:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
whincup wrote: DMAC wrote: Gears don't give you more power it changes your mechanical advantage giving the perception you have more power but they should be on your list. depends where you measure the power from. it does actually give you more power at the wheels... Strictly speaking, no it doesn't... It gives you more torque at the wheels, but the power isn't changed... |
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| Author: | Barnster [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
Why go to all that hassle with spending 2-4K on conversion of a Sierra.Just go and buy a Vitara with a EFI 1.6 in it ready to go??? |
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| Author: | Ben_Sierra [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
Barnster wrote: Why go to all that hassle with spending 2-4K on conversion of a Sierra.Just go and buy a Vitara with a EFI 1.6 in it ready to go???
Don't start that again....
Anyway, a properly geared 1.3 Sierra will be a huge difference to 30s without gearing. It is definitely the way to go. |
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| Author: | 31zook [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
gearing X a bajiliant. you will spend allot more doing power up's then just doing a tcase swap and gearing... |
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| Author: | ZookiMonsta [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
I've got a supercharger set up here... wanna buy it?
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| Author: | 31zook [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
for what motor? how much? |
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| Author: | want33s [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 9:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
Gear it...... Then repower it.... |
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| Author: | whincup [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
Ben_Sierra wrote: whincup wrote: DMAC wrote: Gears don't give you more power it changes your mechanical advantage giving the perception you have more power but they should be on your list. depends where you measure the power from. it does actually give you more power at the wheels... Strictly speaking, no it doesn't... It gives you more torque at the wheels, but the power isn't changed... yeah, thats what i meant, sorry, i should have been more specific. gearing fixes the problem created from having bigger tires. simple physics, torque = force x distance. you increase the distance (or diameter of the tyres) you also have to increase the torque. thats what lower gears do... it really depends on what sik97 is after. speed, or just a little more grunt... want33s wrote: Gear it...... Then repower it....
x2. |
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| Author: | Ben_Sierra [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 10:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
Even with the extra power, it'll still be a dog without decent gearing... Plus more power, big tyres and no gearing is not gonna be great on the clutch, or the rest of the driveline for that matter... |
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| Author: | coneykid [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 7:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
I got a 1L transfer here and 5.12 diff centers. But a bit far away. Bundaberg 4670 if you keen |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Sun Jan 09, 2011 8:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
coneykid wrote: I got a 1L transfer here and 5.12 diff centers. But a bit far away.
Bundaberg 4670 if you keen Chuck the tinny in the water and go for a blat up to bundy
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| Author: | sik97zook [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
coneykid wrote: I got a 1L transfer here and 5.12 diff centers. But a bit far away.
Bundaberg 4670 if you keen yeah mate im keen! but your right Bundaberg is bit far away. Thanks every one for the help looks like gears are the way. |
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| Author: | sik97zook [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
Fatzook wrote: coneykid wrote: I got a 1L transfer here and 5.12 diff centers. But a bit far away. Bundaberg 4670 if you keen Chuck the tinny in the water and go for a blat up to bundy hmmmm i do need a holiday 
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| Author: | Built4thrashing [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Need more power! |
Just re gear it. Everyone i know that does power upgrades break heaps of stuff. Even tho my sierra was slow i never broke any driveline bits. No busted axles, t/case mounts, diffs or unis. Hell if i was as hard on it with more grunt it would have died years ago. |
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