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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2011 10:37 am |
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Just wondering are GV and XL7 struts the same? Are the XL7 struts longer than a GV Strut? and will the XL7 strut replace a GV one?
If they are the same does anyone know the part numbers for some lifted GV Struts?
Thanx
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
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I can't tell you what the physical differences are, but the part numbers are different.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Would it be the vaulving of the struts?
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MacDaddy

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Joined: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 10453 Location: Perth, Australia
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Built4thrashing wrote: Just wondering are GV and XL7 struts the same? Are the XL7 struts longer than a GV Strut? and will the XL7 strut replace a GV one?
If they are the same does anyone know the part numbers for some lifted GV Struts?
Thanx
The GV and XL7 both have the same struts, however, from what i understand, the XL7 has a higher capacity strut due to the XL7 being heavier, fyi, putting XL7 coils on a GV will give it a little lift and extra load capacity... 
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Mick70b
Joined: Sun May 09, 2010 9:14 am Posts: 265 Location: Sydney West
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As above ^^^^ As far as I'm aware they are the same physical length and dimensions but the XL-7 ones are valved heavier due to the weight of the XL-7
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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 Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:48 am |
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yeah they are the same length just harder valving
i run them on my vit to controll all the extra weight i have up front
( steel diff bull bar winch extra batt)
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 12:55 am |
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Mick70b
Joined: Sun May 09, 2010 9:14 am Posts: 265 Location: Sydney West
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 Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 2:21 am |
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^^^ No, but I have been using struts spacers for about 3 years with standard length struts and GV colis and had no problems. I thought the spacer looked a bit stronger than a screw on threaded piece?
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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 Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 4:00 am |
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the other type of strut spacer dont fit on a GV properly as it messes up the strut brace.
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: SQ625
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I have the ones from oda they are crap
They were just bare when I got them and they rusted into the top mount
Need to weld a big washer on the bottom to hold the boot down aswell
They would be good if some one made them proply
They need a hex milled in the side instead of cutting half the thread off
The nut can slip on the thread and it fucks them
Woulnt be hard tommake a set
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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got_bar_work wrote: I have the ones from oda they are crap They were just bare when I got them and they rusted into the top mount Need to weld a big washer on the bottom to hold the boot down aswell They would be good if some one made them proply They need a hex milled in the side instead of cutting half the thread off The nut can slip on the thread and it fucks them Woulnt be hard tommake a set
I think they are a shit idea, and just unsafe.
A strut top flip would be better. Or to go that step further, a new strut top that sits at the same height as a flipped OEM unit, but still allows the fitment of the GV strut brace.....
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Mick70b
Joined: Sun May 09, 2010 9:14 am Posts: 265 Location: Sydney West
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Quote: A strut top flip would be better. Or to go that step further, a new strut top that sits at the same height as a flipped OEM unit
Any chance something like this would appear in the 2001 TSOR catalogue to suit SV620 ??? 
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
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Fatzook wrote: A strut top flip would be better. Or to go that step further, a new strut top that sits at the same height as a flipped OEM unit, but still allows the fitment of the GV strut brace.....
Havent looked properly but i dont think a strut flip is possible in a GV due to the strut brace. But i could be wrong
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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can't see why strut top spacers like the calmini ones wont work on a GV with a strut brace, a body lift will cause the strut brace to hit the inner guards.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Built4thrashing wrote: Fatzook wrote: A strut top flip would be better. Or to go that step further, a new strut top that sits at the same height as a flipped OEM unit, but still allows the fitment of the GV strut brace..... Havent looked properly but i dont think a strut flip is possible in a GV due to the strut brace. But i could be wrong
Yeah it can be done. But it requires some fabwork. Hence my suggestion of a bespoke unit.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
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Fatzook wrote: Built4thrashing wrote: Fatzook wrote: A strut top flip would be better. Or to go that step further, a new strut top that sits at the same height as a flipped OEM unit, but still allows the fitment of the GV strut brace..... Havent looked properly but i dont think a strut flip is possible in a GV due to the strut brace. But i could be wrong Yeah it can be done. But it requires some fabwork. Hence my suggestion of a bespoke unit. Not sure why you would lift the front end that much to require this mod when longer struts are available. atari4x4 wrote: can't see why strut top spacers like the calmini ones wont work on a GV with a strut brace, a body lift will cause the strut brace to hit the inner guards.
Strut doesnt sit on a level pane. so spacers will sit on the angle and not line up with brace.
Prob dont make sence till you have a close look . cutting the inner guard is not a big deal would only need to remove 20mm to have it clear the strut.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Built4thrashing wrote: Not sure why you would lift the front end that much to require this mod when longer struts are available.
How long?  As with most suzukis, finding a quality strut that longer than 40mm over standard is quite hard.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
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ironman, Dobinson, OME and i think Ridepro make 40mm longer struts and i found a site that uses a strut from another vehicle that can be made to fit.
http://tracker4x4.blogspot.com/2009/06/ ... truts.html
or Out door Auto sell struts that are75mm longer.
How much extra do you get from a strut flip?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Built4thrashing wrote: or Out door Auto sell struts that are75mm longer.
How much extra do you get from a strut flip? Fatzook wrote: How long?  As with most suzukis, finding a quality strut that longer than 40mm over standard is quite hard.
Strut flip would give you 40-50mm I reckon.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
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 Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:31 am |
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OK found out today that XL7 struts are suposed to be different but most strut makers only make one for both GV and XL7.
I did however discover that XL7 rear shocks are longer or are suposed to be.
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