[Damo]

Hi everyone

Calling anyone with a 1.6 EFI Vitara or X-90, or Sierra's with EFI engine conversions!

I've been putting together some information for myself, sort of a guide to Suzuki EFI, I've only been looking at g16 stuff so far, both throttle body and multi point injection. What I need is some more info on various models. You see, it seems there are a few different variants of each type and this makes it difficult when doing a conversion into a Sierra. I was hoping that there are a few guys out there in the SE Qld area that would be able to help out putting together this guide. It would be posted on this board for all to access.

SO, if you have a multi point or throttle body injected g16 (a or b doesnt matter) or even a g13 for that matter, can you put you hand up so we can compare notes?

[royce]

I do in the vit
what bits and pieces do you plan on adding? like a list of part numbers for major components?
I have noticed that most of the freely available manuals are totally different to what I have, which makes trouble shooting a PITA

[Damo]

royce wrote:

I have noticed that most of the freely available manuals are totally different to what I have, which makes trouble shooting a PITA

I'm in EXACTLY the same boat, as are a lot of people I imagine. I think it's because the wiring is slightly different between markets, and those manuals you speak of are for overseas markets. Not to mention there are multiple variants of the same thing even in the one market, eg. Australia. In any case, this is exactly the reason I want to put together this information. Considering this, it is pretty important we know where the engine came from. Easy if the engine is in a Vit, but perhaps not so easy if it's already been swapped into a Sierra, and you don't know anything about the donor.

royce wrote:

I do in the vit
what bits and pieces do you plan on adding? like a list of part numbers for major components?

I'll be approaching it like i'm writing "The Idiot's Guide to Swapping a G16 Into a Sierra". Mainly because if this idiot can understand it then anyone should be able to . Seriously though, I think it should start with how to identify what you have, go through stuff like what sensors & wiring is required to be carried over, wiring diagrams, ECU pinout diagrams, fitting a VSS and i'll be chucking some Megasquirt stuff in there too. If anyone has other suggestions feel free to post up.

[royce]

how about a basic teamplate for those that have it either factory or in a good conversion to list component part numbers

IE
ECU
airflow meter
TPS
ICS
and so on so those that are missing bits can look it up to see what model they need to find and also get troubleshooting help with things like what voltage do you see at this time and so on

will be interested to see the megasquirt info too, specially piggybacked on the factory ECU

[Damo]

royce wrote:

how about a basic teamplate for those that have it either factory or in a good conversion to list component part numbers

IE
ECU
airflow meter
TPS
ICS
and so on so those that are missing bits can look it up to see what model they need to find and also get troubleshooting help with things like what voltage do you see at this time and so on

will be interested to see the megasquirt info too, specially piggybacked on the factory ECU

Yep that's not a bad idea Royce. I hadn't thought of pigybacking a megasquirt, i'll look into that too.

[Damo]

Just putting this back up top for anyone else to see. I still need info!

On the Vit/Megasquirt front i've got a new idea. What i'll be doing with my 16v in the Sierra is installing it with the stock ECU and later down the track building an adapter that will plug into the Megasquirt and allow my to plug the stock loom straight into that, kinda like the patch looms Haltech does for Evos & stuff. BUT mine will be all built into the zook ECU case.

Plug & play programmable ECU

THis week I got a donor ECU board to rat the connector socket from. Interestingly some model Magnas use the same sockets. From some reading I have done some Subarus should too.

[royce]

looks very EF falconish too

wonder what all the blank bits are for? factory v12 quad turbo vitaras?

[Damo]

There are a bunch of components missing because this one has been cannibalised for parts

Are we doing a quad turbo V12 for your buggy???

[royce]

how about 4 engines lined up to make a v16 and use 4 cyls for onboard air?

[steve]

oo look , you broke the thread

[royce]

it was broken from teh start, perhaps I need to raise a fault ticket with the background tech dude

[steve]

i reckon the tech dude might just delete the thread, "all fixed"

[royce]

I have a feeling he is trying to pad it over to teh next page

[steve]

possibly.... he might wait til no one's looking in two months and delete it then.

[royce]

I tried moving it and moving it back, best I can come up with

[steve]

wow that's wierd, i fixed it

it was Damos fault

[Damo]

steve wrote:

wow that's wierd, i fixed it

it was Damos fault

I'm sure it was Royce's fault, but if I blame him i'll get banned

[joeblow]

got all 1.6 efi and 2 litre stuff on factory suzuki cd rom....

[Damo]

joeblow wrote:

got all 1.6 efi and 2 litre stuff on factory suzuki cd rom....

Well that would make it rather easy are they Aus. spec?

[joeblow]

from what i've looked at and worked with they cover all markets.

[basketcase]

I have just cooked my engine. Will be fixing that in the near future and want to chuck fuel injection on when it goes back together.

What should I be looking for? I have sorced a throttle body from a TBI set up, but still all the wiring ect ect......

Can some put it all in really simple terms what I would need to do a complete conversion. Nothing fancy either, just a basic set up.

As well as the throttle body I would assume I need

AFM
Wiring loom
Computer, can I just go after market or do I need a stock one too???
High pressure fuel pump
O2 sensor

What else??

[royce]

if you have the TBI unit and nothign else I would look around on somewhere like boostcruising for a computer with built in map sensor to run it, then the only other sensors youll need will be coolant temp and maybe airtemp from something generic like a commodore

fuel pump as per other threads, in tank or with a surge tank

dont need an 02 sensor but it the computer will do closed loop than yes

[Hybrid]

royce wrote:

if you have the TBI unit and nothign else I would look around on somewhere like boostcruising for a computer with built in map sensor to run it, then the only other sensors youll need will be coolant temp and maybe airtemp from something generic like a commodore

fuel pump as per other threads, in tank or with a surge tank

dont need an 02 sensor but it the computer will do closed loop than yes

I agree with Royce with regard to the ECU with inbuilt MAP. I'm running TBI with an aftermarket computer. If you have the G16 TBI including the inlet manifold then the coolant and intake air temp sensors are already fitted to the manifold.

[Hybrid]

This might help.....or hinder....