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| Author: | Vash [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Hi all, I've always loved the look of these little Sierras, and have mostly been a bike rider in my time but feel like hitting the road in abit more comfort and take the girlfriend out for camping trips. I really love the look of this 4WD on ebay, and its got a 1.6 Corolla conversion. Hasnt been engineered yet, my question is, what is needed on this car and is it a good buy? what do i check? Problem is, its in melbourne and im in Sydney, so it would be a sight unseen thing most likely. I called the guy up and he says it just needs to be engineered but said it might need springs as it drives like a dog on the road. link: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Suzuki-Sierra-4x ... 4aa83c6cd6 Thanks for any suggestions. Jake |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Specs. 1.6ltr corolla engine conversion Is the engine engineered? 31 x 10.5 maxxis bighorns 80% tread (x 5) Illegal external bead locks on all 5 rims Illegal 6 point roll cage inside cab looks very 'home made' and has no diagonal bracing at all. 2" suspension lift and 2" body lift Is the body lift engineered? custom tube bull bar 4 spotties mounted on the roof and 2 narva ultima 170's mounted on the bull bar dual snorkel Why? looks poorly done and without air ram on the top it likely to fill up when it rains. checker plate door trims It looks like a pretty poor attempt at making a capable sierra. I'd give it a miss if I were you. |
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| Author: | mondo [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
also i dunno what other ppl's views are on this, but i personally wouldnt buy a sierra that's not a widetrack |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
mondo wrote: also i dunno what other ppl's views are on this, but i personally wouldnt buy a sierra that's not a widetrack
They are the best ones to buy!!! 3.9 ratio ( in the 1.3L) and then you fit WT diffs for better flex than a WT gets 
Although this is a 1L, so it has 4.1's that aren't interchangable with WT diff centres 
And can someone explain why a 1L sierra needs twin snorkles? |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
BTW, welcome to AZ Vash 
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| Author: | JrZook [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Fatzook wrote: And can someone explain why a 1L sierra needs twin snorkles?
Aerodynamics shesh! 
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| Author: | tmb99 [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Fatzook wrote: And can someone explain why a 1L sierra needs twin snorkles?
feng shui?? |
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| Author: | Vash [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Well these are the sorta replys i needed, steer me away from trouble
thanks guys. Guess i better wait for something local i can have a good look at. A shame tho, that sierra looks bloody awesome! besides those snorkels... haha |
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| Author: | Reubs [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
IMO - just from the ebay ad that Sierra looks like rubbish (I should know about unfinished rubbishy Sierras - I have built one too). It looks like more then 'just engineering' needs to be done. Consider - 31" tyres will require some reduction gearing for any sort of drivability on or (especially) off road. More of why it drives 'like a dog". Full cages (with the front half around the dash) aren't nice to drive with. I know in Qld you might not be able to get that passed (mod plated here). I can't comment on a Corolla engine's conversion suitability, but why didn't the owner fit the more commonly transplanted Vitara 1.6? Has it been done properly? Are externally beadlocked wheels road legal anywhere? Why does it have a dual snorkel setup - what does the 'other' one do other then look silly? If you know what you're doing and can get it cheap then i'd say buy it but if you aren't too much of a DIY mechanic then I wouldn't bother - especially if you plan to buy it unseen and plan to use it straight away. Simply too much possibility of having to fix someone else's dodgy mess and having it cost you several times more then what you bought it for. |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Vash wrote: Well these are the sorta replys i needed, steer me away from trouble
thanks guys. Guess i better wait for something local i can have a good look at. A shame tho, that sierra looks bloody awesome! besides those snorkels... haha Whats your budget mate? That thing is a sack of shit compared to a well built sierra. Dodgy paint, dodgy mods, dodgy car. |
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| Author: | steve [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Vash wrote: Hi all,
I've always loved the look of these little Sierras, and have mostly been a bike rider in my time but feel like hitting the road in abit more comfort and take the girlfriend out for camping trips. It looks dodgy as 
It's good that the bloke was honest and said it drives like a dog. I would advise against buying a car that drives like a dog and expect to take the girlfriend camping. You would be trying to sell it before long. You will have to put all new suspension in it, replacing everything probably, so you might be better buying a stock standard vehicle and building it up. unless it was reaaaaalllllyyyy cheap
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| Author: | Reubs [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Fatzook wrote: And can someone explain why a 1L sierra needs twin snorkles?
Someone likes to think they are driving a V8... |
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| Author: | tanshi [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
keep your eyes open on here vash, good ones come up pretty often, and we are mostly happy to help make sure you get a good one |
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| Author: | Vash [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Fatzook wrote: Vash wrote: Well these are the sorta replys i needed, steer me away from trouble thanks guys. Guess i better wait for something local i can have a good look at. A shame tho, that sierra looks bloody awesome! besides those snorkels... haha Whats your budget mate? That thing is a sack of shit compared to a well built sierra. Dodgy paint, dodgy mods, dodgy car. About $3500-4000 at this point. It'll be my main car for commuting now and then, trips and stuff. |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Vash wrote: About $3500-4000 at this point. It'll be my main car for commuting now and then, trips and stuff.
Buy a stocker then. If you are commuting you will need something reliable and legal. That way you can do the mods the RIGHT way as time/ money permits. Sierras don't have to be expensive to modify, but they can be expensive when you have to fix up someone elses poor attempt at a mod. |
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| Author: | mondo [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Fatzook wrote: mondo wrote: also i dunno what other ppl's views are on this, but i personally wouldnt buy a sierra that's not a widetrack They are the best ones to buy!!! 3.9 ratio ( in the 1.3L) and then you fit WT diffs for better flex than a WT gets Although this is a 1L, so it has 4.1's that aren't interchangable with WT diff centres And can someone explain why a 1L sierra needs twin snorkles? there you go, learn something new everyday 
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| Author: | Vash [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Thanks for the advice 
hows this? http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Suzuki-Sierra-JX ... 500wt_1156 |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Vash wrote:
Getting better, but I don't like the sound of their idea of a rust repair 
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| Author: | mondo [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
they replaced it with aluminium, never rust
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
mondo wrote: they replaced it with aluminium, never rust
Yep. And by riviting in a plate over the old rust hole then sealing it they have created a double skin, which can trap moisture, causing more rust. There is a reason why people cut rust out and weld new steel back in. 
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| Author: | Reubs [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
mondo wrote: they replaced it with aluminium, never rust
...but electrolysis will 'eat' it if it's placed in contact with the steel... |
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| Author: | stocker [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
mmm yummy... dissimilar metals spells battery in any language... You could probably pick up a decent sierra that has a few light mods off here if you just hang around long enough... if your not on an urgent timeline that is... |
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| Author: | steve [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
the $2000 might be worth a look. You can just fix the rust repair up, take out the allumium plate etc. We don't usually see Sierra on here for $2000, so if that's the only issue it'd be ok. Assuming everything else is ok. |
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| Author: | Jason [ Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
That rust repair could be an easy bargaining point. |
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| Author: | Vash [ Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Well i went and looked at that car, drove it and loved it. Shook on it for $1500 Next day im on my way there to give a deposit as i didnt have cash at the time, and someone offered them asking price $2000 A handshake means nothing nowadays it seems. I guess its my own fault for not trying to get a deposit immediately. The search continues. |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Vash wrote: Well i went and looked at that car, drove it and loved it.
Shook on it for $1500 Next day im on my way there to give a deposit as i didnt have cash at the time, and someone offered them asking price $2000 A handshake means nothing nowadays it seems. I guess its my own fault for not trying to get a deposit immediately. The search continues. What a wanker
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| Author: | PJ.zook [ Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Sierras are a great little vehicle, but if you arent doing anything very serious 4wding (or even if you are), have you considered a Vitara? Sierras arent the most comfortable vehicle by a long shot, but the Vitara's arent too bad comfort wise (which will make the girlfreind happy) and can still go places. |
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| Author: | Vash [ Sun Feb 06, 2011 1:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
When i drove that sierra for the first time, i can't put my finger on what just instantly made me fall in love with it. Something about the simplicity, the noises, the vibration, the jeep-like feeling. fucking awesome. |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Vash wrote: the jeep-like feeling
You won't make friends around here saying things like that 
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| Author: | Vash [ Sun Feb 06, 2011 2:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: New to 4WD - Buying first Sierra |
Fatzook wrote: Vash wrote: the jeep-like feeling You won't make friends around here saying things like that haha, well ive never driven a jeep, i mean the style of car, jeep... WW2, Jurassic park type
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