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Author:  Vash [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:20 am ]
Post subject:  All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

Hey all,
My mate and i fitted all new OME H/D springs & shocks, ubolts and bushes over the weekend, as well as swivel hub seals & wheel, kingpin bearings, steering damper and tightened steering box.

Car drives much better but the camber is way out, took it for a wheel alignment and they said take it to pedders (again) but wouldnt mind giving it a shot myself if possible.

How do you adjust the camber/castor on a 95' Leaf sierra?

Thanks

Author:  5ierra [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/suzuki/s ... shims.html

They should do the job, i dont know how to work out what angle you require sorry, at a guess i'd say 3 degree's but thats only because i've seen a few blokes do it before and thats how much they used.

Author:  royce [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:29 am ]
Post subject:  Re: All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

camber on a sierra isnt adjustable
castor is but for it to be out with that gear something is wrong with it

what measurements did they give you?

Author:  Vash [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 12:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

They didnt give me any measurements unfortunately.
I did a quick google and theres camber adjustment bolts for Samurais.. No idea how they would work though.

Reckon i've got something bent? the stock suspension was pretty bloody stuffed.

Author:  JrZook [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:20 am ]
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Vash wrote:
Reckon i've got something bent? the stock suspension was pretty bloody stuffed.


The only way to 'adjust' the camber on a sierra is to jump it and there fore bend the housing. No camber bolts will work on it as it is live axle.

Dan

Author:  royce [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

Vash wrote:
They didnt give me any measurements unfortunately.
I did a quick google and theres camber adjustment bolts for Samurais.. No idea how they would work though.

Reckon i've got something bent? the stock suspension was pretty bloody stuffed.


got a link to them?

normally camber can be adjusted with a special king pin that has a concentric pic you move about, but they add something else to go wrong and youll only be covering a larger problem

I would go with the shop not knowing what they are doing if the tyre wear is ok, no alignment settings change when you lift a sierra

Author:  Vash [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

Im getting the impression the car was a farm backyard thrash toy going by the condition of its underneath.

these:
http://www.jcwhitney.com/camber-kits/su ... j1s21.jcwx

Looking around for a complete front diff now.

Author:  atari4x4 [ Mon Mar 07, 2011 1:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

they're camber bolts for Vitara's.

Author:  Vash [ Thu Mar 10, 2011 10:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

Fellas,
Pedders told me the camber is out by 2.5 degrees. Is that alot?
They adjusted the toe in but now the steering pulls to the left harder, but the steering is less heavy.

The boss of this pedders shop has the shits with me because i didn't go through with the $3000 quote and did it myself, and only brought it back for a wheel alignment, im getting the feeling these guys are abit dodgy so need to find a better shop if anyone has suggestions near Lidcombe, Sydney?
Thanks

Author:  Red89 [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:00 am ]
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atari4x4 wrote:
they're camber bolts for Vitara's.

Its for 2wd Sammi's as well :wink:

http://www.jcwhitney.com/professional-g ... stid=30951

Author:  royce [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

Red89 wrote:
atari4x4 wrote:
they're camber bolts for Vitara's.

Its for 2wd Sammi's as well :wink:

http://www.jcwhitney.com/professional-g ... stid=30951


If they are like the pic, no they arent, they might fit in a shackle but thats it

How about I order some and when they dont fit, you grind em up and put em on your cornflakes :wink:

Author:  barney7779 [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

Vash wrote:
Fellas,
Pedders told me the camber is out by 2.5 degrees. Is that alot?
They adjusted the toe in but now the steering pulls to the left harder, but the steering is less heavy.

The boss of this pedders shop has the shits with me because i didn't go through with the $3000 quote and did it myself, and only brought it back for a wheel alignment, im getting the feeling these guys are abit dodgy so need to find a better shop if anyone has suggestions near Lidcombe, Sydney?
Thanks




2.5 degrees is quite a lot, did they say if it was positive or negative??

When the car is parked on level ground with the wheels pointing straight ahead do the front wheels look like this-----> / \ or like this ---> \ /
or do they look straight like this ---> | |

Author:  atari4x4 [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

^^ it will be positive camber.

grab 2 sets of camber bolts from Peddo's & take it to any decent wheel aligner get them to fit them & align it.

do you still have the same amount of steering lock left to right?

Author:  royce [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

atari4x4 wrote:
^^ it will be positive camber.

grab 2 sets of camber bolts from Peddo's & take it to any decent wheel aligner get them to fit them & align it.

do you still have the same amount of steering lock left to right?


ITS A SIERRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Author:  atari4x4 [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

royce wrote:
atari4x4 wrote:
^^ it will be positive camber.

grab 2 sets of camber bolts from Peddo's & take it to any decent wheel aligner get them to fit them & align it.

do you still have the same amount of steering lock left to right?


ITS A SIERRA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh shit, for some reason I thought it was a Vitara.... anyway that's enough out of me, back to work. :oops: :oops: :oops:

Author:  Red89 [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

royce wrote:
Red89 wrote:
atari4x4 wrote:
they're camber bolts for Vitara's.

Its for 2wd Sammi's as well :wink:

http://www.jcwhitney.com/professional-g ... stid=30951


If they are like the pic, no they arent, they might fit in a shackle but thats it

How about I order some and when they dont fit, you grind em up and put em on your cornflakes :wink:

I need some fibre :D

Was just posting what it stated on the sight, I'm still not exactly sure where they are ment go though :?

Author:  4x4ish [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

Vash wrote:
because i didn't go through with the $3000 quote


i hope u mean $300 not $3000

i paid $90 for camber adjustment and allignment but that was in a vitara, totally different setup but even $300 sounds high.

Author:  SierraDan [ Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

I think $3000 was the whole thing done. Springs, shocks, bushes bolts and fitting. But he fitted it himself.

Author:  Vash [ Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

Thats correct :)
but now im annoyed that the diff may be bent after doing all that and just rebuilding the whole friggin front diffs

Author:  Reubs [ Sun Mar 13, 2011 12:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: All new suspension fitted, Camber is out

Vash wrote:
Thats correct :)
but now im annoyed that the diff may be bent after doing all that and just rebuilding the whole friggin front diffs

Does your housing look bent? Is there a noticeable 'inwards lean' on your tyres? Are your tyres wearing un-evenly? If not, IMO it isn't worth worrying about...

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