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| Author: | S13RR4 [ Fri Apr 01, 2011 4:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | 1lt transfer flange removal |
In the absence of the old thread I started, here's a new one... Does anyone have any ideas how to remove a really tough flange? I've got the ones that go to front and rear diff loose, but the one that comes form gear box is a bastard. The other two were extra tight so I expect this one to be similar, but so car can't get enough omph to crack it. Rattle gun doesn't have enough kick to loosen it, and the 2m breaker bar I used on the other two is no good as I have nothing to lock the flange against (since the other two are loose). Any ideas or volunteers to get it undone? |
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| Author: | Scrawny [ Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
You need to make up a tool to hold the flange then get a decent rattle gun onto it |
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| Author: | S13RR4 [ Fri Apr 01, 2011 5:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
yeah thought something like that was in order |
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| Author: | LittleJeep [ Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
Heat, and some Wd40, and a really long breaker bar. i use a big bit of flat bar with two holes drilled in it to hold the flange. hope this helps |
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| Author: | Scrawny [ Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
Heat will stuff the seal if you use too much |
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| Author: | Rusho [ Fri Apr 01, 2011 6:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
Failing all that , take it to your local mechanic, im sure they wouldn't charge you much(if anything) |
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| Author: | 303zuke [ Fri Apr 01, 2011 8:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
S13RR4 wrote: Rattle gun doesn't have enough kick to loosen it, and the 2m breaker bar I used on the other two is no good as I have nothing to lock the flange against (since the other two are loose).
Even though you've undone the nut on the other flanges, what's to stop you sliding the flanges on to the splines without fitting the nuts back on? Then you can use them to stop the input flange turning. Even so, locking or holding the other flanges to undo the nut on another flange isn't the best way to go. Any turning force (Torque) is borne by the gear train instead of being directly applied to turning the nut off the shaft. This can be particularly damaging to the gear teeth when using a rattle gun. Try to lock the flange using the bolt holes, or clamp the flange in a vice. |
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| Author: | Rhino [ Fri Apr 01, 2011 10:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
If you haven't had any luck removing the flange over the weekend drop me a pm and i'll give you a hand with it. I normaly find an 3/4" rattle gun will undo them pretty easy. |
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| Author: | S13RR4 [ Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
I have a bucket full of bolts from dad that I will try to find some to lock the rear output flange in with. hopefully the ones on my 1.3L case aren't such a bastard. I'll let you know Rhino, thanks for the offer |
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| Author: | russty_2008 [ Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
i had to use a cold chisel to get one of mine off just to crack it then it rattled straight off |
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| Author: | boostedbrick [ Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
This is how I did mine, im not sure if this will translate to a 1lt case though?? I just bolted my spare breaker on with one bolt, held it in the vice and pulled the long edge of the bar against the side of the flange in the direction i was pulling too loosen.. 
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| Author: | S13RR4 [ Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
boostedbrick wrote: This is how I did mine, im not sure if this will translate to a 1lt case though??
I just bolted my spare breaker on with one bolt, held it in the vice and pulled the long edge of the bar against the side of the flange in the direction i was pulling too loosen.. just tried this and snapped about 10 bolts I tried with... |
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| Author: | boostedbrick [ Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
I was using high tensile 10mm bolts, and they bent but didnt snap. The first bolt i used was a stainless and it snapped... If thats not working... good luck |
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| Author: | mrw82 [ Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
if you want to bring it down to deception bay I can have that nut off in all of 30 seconds for you. |
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| Author: | S13RR4 [ Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
whats your secret? |
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| Author: | Rusho [ Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
S13RR4 wrote: whats your secret?
World's biggest rattle gun  Have you soaked it in lanolin(or similar), I assume you would have, just thought I would check
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| Author: | S13RR4 [ Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
I put some wd40 on there. maybe I should try more? |
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| Author: | Scrawny [ Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
It's not stuck because it's seized, it's just tight. You need a decent rattle gun to get it loose. |
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| Author: | MrRocky [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
redrill flange stud pattern to suit w/t prob be easier than trying to undo it |
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| Author: | mrw82 [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
Rusho wrote: S13RR4 wrote: whats your secret? World's biggest rattle gun Correct. A 1" drive 240volt electric rattle guyn that will either undo ANY bolt or shear it, either way it gets shit apart. |
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| Author: | S13RR4 [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 4:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
how do you stop the flange from just spinning? |
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| Author: | Ridge [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
S13RR4 wrote: how do you stop the flange from just spinning?
you could put the case into gear. Have you checked that the nut has not been punched in on the edges, where the shaft has a small recess? |
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| Author: | S13RR4 [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 5:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
Ridge wrote: S13RR4 wrote: how do you stop the flange from just spinning? you could put the case into gear. Have you checked that the nut has not been punched in on the edges, where the shaft has a small recess? I have bent the nut indent bits back out. With the case in gear, do you think just holding one of the output flanges will be enough? When I tried with a rattle gun the kicks from the gun were too quick and holding it has providing little help for this. |
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| Author: | mrw82 [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
S13RR4 wrote: how do you stop the flange from just spinning?
don't need to with my rattle gun. it spins the nut off before the shaft has even had a chance to think about spinning. |
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| Author: | pyrohamish [ Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
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| Author: | Ridge [ Mon Apr 04, 2011 2:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
S13RR4 wrote: Ridge wrote: S13RR4 wrote: how do you stop the flange from just spinning? you could put the case into gear. Have you checked that the nut has not been punched in on the edges, where the shaft has a small recess? I have bent the nut indent bits back out. With the case in gear, do you think just holding one of the output flanges will be enough? When I tried with a rattle gun the kicks from the gun were too quick and holding it has providing little help for this. try bolting on a drive shaft onto one of the flanges when the case is in gear. if you have a large set of multi grips or pipe wrench clamp that onto the uni and get someone to hold onto it. If you can heat up the nut and try the rattle gun straight away. if all else fails, try a bigger rattle gun or get a long piece of pipe to extend your breaker bar. |
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| Author: | steak_knife [ Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
pyrohamish wrote: 
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| Author: | Scrawny [ Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
pyrohamish wrote: I need one of these!!! |
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| Author: | Built4thrashing [ Mon Apr 04, 2011 6:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
get a bit of flat bar and drill 2 holes on the edge that can be bolted onto the flange using 2 bolts. then with a big breaker bar just scissor them together. Its all about leaverage. Havent found a Flange nut that wont undo yet using this method. Ill try to get a pic for you. |
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| Author: | S13RR4 [ Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 1lt transfer flange removal |
I think I get what you mean, Rhino has been kind enough to offer to take it to his work tomorrow and try with a vice and big rattle gun. Some man love may be in order if he is successful... 
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