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Author:  85Drover [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:10 am ]
Post subject:  Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
G'Day,

My camber is out and my mechanic and I are curious to know what the camber should be at with this lift kit installed, and how and what should be done/used to adjust it properly. Tyre wear seems normal, just need help with adjustments etc.. :(

What should be done? My steering is also out, pulls left, not too severely but enough to give me the shits and have to hold it straight on the roads. caster correction bushes and camber pins necessary or?? Should I buy a steering stabilizer truss off Calmini ? Let me know what your thoughts are.

My mechanic says he's never seen or heard of Calmini before...

Cheers,
Ryan
Author:  85Drover [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
I've got a set of OME lifted struts on order, costing me $440 for the pair from ARB Cairns also ! 8O

So yeah any advice or help is much appreciated. :)
Author:  Joe [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
Get some camber bolts from Pedders :wink:
Author:  stocker [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
What Size Tyre Are you Running???

Calmini Reccomend you Run 31's with a 3" Backspace ( i believe this is -22 Offset ) Correct me if im Wrong. and that should sought out all your camber troubles :)
Author:  85Drover [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
Joe: Camber bolts for my model car?

At the moment i'm running 215/75R15s, BUT, I plan on getting some 31" Km2's or something of the like in the now, much more distant future.. :( and i'm running -22 offset too..

Thanks fellas.
Author:  Joe [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 7:38 am ]
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85Drover wrote:
Joe: Camber bolts for my model car?


Yes i have them in my car
Author:  christover1 [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:18 am ]
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Author:  buzbox [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 8:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
85Drover wrote:
I've got a set of OME lifted struts on order, costing me $440 for the pair from ARB Cairns also ! 8O



Yesterday I bought some Dobinsons 45mm raised struts for $260 :p

And yep, you'd need camber bolts.
Author:  Bucket [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
BS and offset is different from rim to rim.
Author:  stocker [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
Bucket wrote:
BS and offset is different from rim to rim.


Offset is a Measured value. Therefore on a 7" Rim. for a 3.25" Backspace it would be -19 Offset. ( not -21 I just double checked myself ) On ALL Rim's Regardless of the manufacture
Author:  ninjamoses [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 9:53 am ]
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Author:  christover1 [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:03 am ]
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Author:  Bucket [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
stocker wrote:
Bucket wrote:
BS and offset is different from rim to rim.


Offset is a Measured value. Therefore on a 7" Rim. for a 3.25" Backspace it would be -19 Offset. ( not -21 I just double checked myself ) On ALL Rim's Regardless of the manufacture


Yes, but on an 8" rim, 3.25" BS will be a much larger negative offset.
Author:  85Drover [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
The rims I have are 15x7 f100 rims. So, are camber pins the same as camber bolts? And yeah I'll go for OME struts in the front and commy shocks in the rear, eventually upgrade to OME rears too. :) And 31" KM2s or KL71s.

My mechanic was stressing and saying to contact Calmini and ask them a few questions etc, he thinks the kit is major overkill.. The front springs are not running straight up and down when seated on level ground, they convex out I said because it's IFS.. At the moment i'm also running the Calmini front struts, They too short for the lift kit?

Thanks heaps fellas, keep up the good work :D
Author:  85Drover [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
So standard aligning tools are used and camber bolts and castor correction bushes are needed.
Author:  Bucket [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
85Drover wrote:
The rims I have are 15x7 f100 rims. So, are camber pins the same as camber bolts? And yeah I'll go for OME struts in the front and commy shocks in the rear, eventually upgrade to OME rears too. :) And 31" KM2s or KL71s.

My mechanic was stressing and saying to contact Calmini and ask them a few questions etc, he thinks the kit is major overkill.. The front springs are not running straight up and down when seated on level ground, they convex out I said because it's IFS.. At the moment i'm also running the Calmini front struts, They too short for the lift kit?

Thanks heaps fellas, keep up the good work :D


Yes, the front struts are shit, get something else. Mine top out too and I've already blown 1 pair out.

As for camber pins, go with whatever he suggest.
Is it possible to adjust castor on an IFS vehicle?? (I'm yet to come across it)
Author:  christover1 [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
dunno about stock ifs vehicles,
but castor adjustment is possible,
by rotating an after market offset bush to desired position.
Crude but works.
Author:  Bucket [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
christover1 wrote:
dunno about stock ifs vehicles,
but castor adjustment is possible,
by rotating an after market offset bush to desired position.
Crude but works.


Yeah, but which ones??
I know on patrols it's offset panhard bushes, but for IFS zook??
Author:  Bucket [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 12:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
I mean radius arms, oops
Author:  christover1 [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
rear A-arm bush,
also swings wheel out and forward slightly,
an advantage for bigger tyres.
Author:  TZAR [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 10:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mYi5BupEoM

here is a video explaining the concept of a camber bolt/pin

says its a vitarda but its not.
Author:  got_bar_work [ Thu Apr 07, 2011 11:35 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
So is there anything that is any good in the calmin kit.
Sounds like everything in the kit is crap.
The point of the arms is to correct camber wheel track and to seat the coils flat at ride hight with the lift. From what ur saying it isn't doing any of that. Sound like the kit is a wast of time and money.
Another way to adjust the caster is to mod the strut spacer . Cut it in half and move it back and weld it back together . Camber can also be corrected by moving it in and out as well
Author:  Chop [ Fri Apr 08, 2011 12:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
Well i can say i dont have and dont need camber bolts in mine! And i know others dont also.
I dont understand why some of you do, take you car of the jack and stands with wheels on get underneath and loosen your bottom two strut bolts then tighten them up again.
Its not a waste of money, only thing thats crap in my book is the shocks and struts.

Gotbarwork, maybe you should make a kit for us like that abortion under you car 8O
Author:  got_bar_work [ Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:11 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
Every one keeps having a go at my coil spacers yet they are passed by a engineer. My stock coils sit nice and straight and don't bow way out like my old lifted coils did.No one has a go at people running Polly spacers on the rear of vits where they can fall out under flex
Ps when u loosen the strut bolts roll it back a bit because the wheels will want to move out a bit
Author:  atari4x4 [ Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Camber issues with 3" Calmini lift kit..
Chop wrote:
Well i can say i dont have and dont need camber bolts in mine! And i know others dont also.
I dont understand why some of you do, take you car of the jack and stands with wheels on get underneath and loosen your bottom two strut bolts then tighten them up again.
Its not a waste of money, only thing thats crap in my book is the shocks and struts.

Gotbarwork, maybe you should make a kit for us like that abortion under you car 8O


x2

GBW... i always thought Athol was a respected engineer, but after seeing what he approved on your Vitara has me thinking he'll approve almost any sort of mod regardless.
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