[IN2DEP]

hey guys

last night i did my FR hand cv joint, climbing a big hill

now its time to upgrade to HD ones, just need to be pointed in the right direction, any shops that i can buy online ??

Cheers
Keith

[SierraDan]

Low range offroad.
Locktup 4x4?
Chromo you mean?

[IN2DEP]

SierraDan wrote:

Low range offroad.
Locktup 4x4?
Chromo you mean?

yes thats what i mean, the ones that dont break, can some one post up a link, cause i cant seem to find them on both them websites

cheers

[SierraDan]

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... axles.html

[steak_knife]

you will need to run a rear diff in th front, as the cro-mo's are 26 spline..

[bohuler]

cv's are cheap and easy to change, if you strengthen them, your more likely to bust something more expensive, like a diff, or gearbox or tranny

Just my 2c worth!

Dave

[joeblow]

bohuler wrote:

cv's are cheap and easy to change, if you strengthen them, your more likely to bust something more expensive, like a diff, or gearbox or tranny

Just my 2c worth!

Dave

That may well be true for other vehicles, but when a Sierra breaks a cv joint it usually (read all the time) takes out the axle splines also. Not only do you have to get a cv but have to source a replacment axle too.

The upgraded cv's, if they break, tend to leave the axle splines intact.

[IN2DEP]

SierraDan wrote:

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.php/suzuki/samurai/axles/samurai-rock-assault-front-4340-chromoly-axles.html

So if I buy what was posted in that link that should be all that I need to fix my cv plus ive got stronger axles aswell ?

Cheers
Keith

[TryHard]

hey if u buy what is listed u have to Options u can run a rear locker in the front eg auto / air .. this will replace the spidergears..if u do not want to buy a locker for the front .. u need to buy replacement spider gears u need 2 x ...this is because the new axles are 26spline .. and the old are 22 .. hope that helps lowrange sells all the parts u will need

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... 83000.html

... also i do suggest u do wheel bearings and swivel hubs if they have not be done in a while

[IN2DEP]

TryHard wrote:

hey if u buy what is listed u have to Options u can run a rear locker in the front eg auto / air .. this will replace the spidergears..if u do not want to buy a locker for the front .. u need to buy replacement spider gears u need 2 x ...this is because the new axles are 26spline .. and the old are 22 .. hope that helps lowrange sells all the parts u will need

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... 83000.html

... also i do suggest u do wheel bearings and swivel hubs if they have not be done in a while

Ok so let me get this straight, If I use the aftermarket spidergears 26 spline does that mean I have to use a rear locker up front or I cant lock the front at all ?

[bohuler]

joeblow wrote:

bohuler wrote:

cv's are cheap and easy to change, if you strengthen them, your more likely to bust something more expensive, like a diff, or gearbox or tranny

Just my 2c worth!

Dave

That may well be true for other vehicles, but when a Sierra breaks a cv joint it usually (read all the time) takes out the axle splines also. Not only do you have to get a cv but have to source a replacment axle too.

The upgraded cv's, if they break, tend to leave the axle splines intact.

Well. seeing i am yet to bust either a cv or an axle, i didn't know this, guess its lucky i have a couple of spare n/t cv's and matching axles
Dave

edit, but what your saying, if i upgrade the cv's and somehow manage to bust them and not something else, then i will just have to replace the cv, not the cv and axle?
Dave

[IN2DEP]

IN2DEP wrote:

TryHard wrote:

hey if u buy what is listed u have to Options u can run a rear locker in the front eg auto / air .. this will replace the spidergears..if u do not want to buy a locker for the front .. u need to buy replacement spider gears u need 2 x ...this is because the new axles are 26spline .. and the old are 22 .. hope that helps lowrange sells all the parts u will need

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... 83000.html

... also i do suggest u do wheel bearings and swivel hubs if they have not be done in a while

Ok so let me get this straight, If I use the aftermarket spidergears 26 spline does that mean I have to use a rear locker up front or I cant lock the front at all ?

Bump

and that axle kit from lowrange, thats everything I need minus the spidergears, yes ?

[CairnsZook]

Yep, as a minimum, you need the axles and side gears.
Just be aware though, replacing the side gears requires disassembly of the diff centre.

When I installed mine, I also replaced all front end seals and bearings, including king-pins, knuckles etc...
I had a rear air-locker fitted to my front housing so it all just slotted back in.
If you can afford a locker for the front, now is the time to do it

[IN2DEP]

CairnsZook wrote:

Yep, as a minimum, you need the axles and side gears.
Just be aware though, replacing the side gears requires disassembly of the diff centre.

When I installed mine, I also replaced all front end seals and bearings, including king-pins, knuckles etc...
I had a rear air-locker fitted to my front housing so it all just slotted back in.
If you can afford a locker for the front, now is the time to do it

Well just got my front wheel bearings done, would a mechanic replace all the seals when doing the job ?

what exactly did you replace ? Sorry im not mr mechanic, I just want to make a list for my mechanic so he can chase up parts and seals

But so far im getting

: lowrange axle
: lowrage spidergears 26spline x2

[LittleJeep]

probably be cheaper to source a rear diff carrier out of a sierra as it already has the 26 spline side gears.

EDIT: especially at that price!

[CairnsZook]

IN2DEP wrote:

Well just got my front wheel bearings done, would a mechanic replace all the seals when doing the job ?

If he's any good, then yes he would have...
Especially since it is very easy to damage the smaller inner seal when removing the axles.

If you've recently had the front bearings replaced, then that's fine. Mine hadn't been done in a while, so I thought I'd do them while the front end was all apart. I got the knuckle rebuilt kit from Lowrange and replaced everything in that. Inner and outer axle seals, bearings, kingpin bearings, knuckle felts and rubbers.
It wasn't totally necessary, but a good idea while everything was apart anyway.

[boostedbrick]

As LittleJeep said, just find a rear center and use the side gears out of that.. No point spending $120 on side gears plus postage. Lowrange do knuckel seal kits for $45 a side, be worth doing that at the same time.

[TryHard]

IN2DEP wrote:

TryHard wrote:

hey if u buy what is listed u have to Options u can run a rear locker in the front eg auto / air .. this will replace the spidergears..if u do not want to buy a locker for the front .. u need to buy replacement spider gears u need 2 x ...this is because the new axles are 26spline .. and the old are 22 .. hope that helps lowrange sells all the parts u will need

http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... 83000.html

... also i do suggest u do wheel bearings and swivel hubs if they have not be done in a while

Ok so let me get this straight, If I use the aftermarket spidergears 26 spline does that mean I have to use a rear locker up front or I cant lock the front at all ?

yes u need to use a rear locker up front ... i have just F***ed my Crown and pinion on my Current diff so i have sourced a front dif for mine ... what i am going to do is buy the Cromoly axles and lockright locker with replacement spider gears Total cost Including Postage is 670 ... basicly what im suggesting .is if u are going to all this effort to replace a axle and Make it HD... u should put a locker in the front ... in a ideal world u would put a rear air locker .. but you could just do what im doing .. hope that makes sence and helps out

[IN2DEP]

Well the idea is to get air lockers front and back, but didnt want spend the money just lol,

So ill just wait for them, ive still got my 32s and spoa to do before lockers lol

oh is it safe to drive with a broken cv ? It only mad noice when I had it in 4wd ?

[christover1]

On a Sierra, broke cv can jam steering suddenly, not so safe at speed.
I would drive slowly out of trouble to a safe spot to remove it, before highway home.

[IN2DEP]

Damn I need it to get to work tomorrow, I cant drive the missis car cause its going to rain and ill be covered in mud

[christover1]

IN2DEP wrote:

Damn I need it to get to work tomorrow, I cant drive the missis car cause its going to rain and ill be covered in mud

when removing broken cv, be very careful,
as broken bits hidden in the grease can be extremely sharp......
also busted bits can hide in the grease,
I found a chunk of cv embedded in my king pin bearing when I last rebuilt me knuckles.

[LittleJeep]

if the hubs are unlocked and it is in 2wd and it isn't binding the steering it will be fine! this is because the axle shafts are not turning.

[weaves]

LittleJeep wrote:

if the hubs are unlocked and it is in 2wd and it isn't binding the steering it will be fine! this is because the axle shafts are not turning.

i've been in a hilux after smashing a CV, with the same train of thought, steering still locked up, we still ran off the road (nothing hit, no one injured).

A smaller broken peice had worked its way down in general driving and bound up/wedged its self in with the biggest part of CV and locked everything up.

I would remove the CV if circumstances allow.

weaves

[Teracis]

IN2DEP wrote:

Well the idea is to get air lockers front and back, but didnt want spend the money just lol,

So ill just wait for them, ive still got my 32s and spoa to do before lockers lol

oh is it safe to drive with a broken cv ? It only mad noice when I had it in 4wd ?

I'd have thought you would get further with twin lockers and what you're on, than spoa running 32's unlocked?

Maybe I'm wrong, it depends what you're driving...

[TryHard]

hmmm my locker should be coming soon Twin locks ftw .. and yer get lockers before u worry about how big ur tyres are .. u may have huge ..tyres but if you cant get traction ur no better off then running stock tyres haha .. i wonder how stock zooks go with duel locks :O

[IN2DEP]

Hahaha well ive never done up a 4wd before so im just going with my 2cents from what ive picked up in the passed 2years

But for my kinda driving it should be ok, I mostly go through mad, not to big on the rock side of things, slowly slowly it will get there,

I drove it today and was carefuly, and nothing happend, but ill tuk her away till I fix her I guess, dont want to do more damage to her

[Teracis]

IN2DEP wrote:

Hahaha well ive never done up a 4wd before so im just going with my 2cents from what ive picked up in the passed 2years

But for my kinda driving it should be ok, I mostly go through mad, not to big on the rock side of things, slowly slowly it will get there,

I drove it today and was carefuly, and nothing happend, but ill tuk her away till I fix her I guess, dont want to do more damage to her

By Mad you mean mud? Wouldn't this be one place lockers would excel?

All good though, each to their own.

[IN2DEP]

Teracis wrote:

IN2DEP wrote:

Hahaha well ive never done up a 4wd before so im just going with my 2cents from what ive picked up in the passed 2years

But for my kinda driving it should be ok, I mostly go through mad, not to big on the rock side of things, slowly slowly it will get there,

I drove it today and was carefuly, and nothing happend, but ill tuk her away till I fix her I guess, dont want to do more damage to her

By Mad you mean mud? Wouldn't this be one place lockers would excel?

All good though, each to their own.

Blahaha yes I mean mud, didnt notice it till then, but you do have a point with the lockers, but I want arb air lockers and there just to $$$ right now so lift and big wheels for now lol

[TryHard]

yer i get what u mean Air lockers = awsome sounds like u have it all planned now