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Author:  joyride [ Wed May 14, 2008 7:04 pm ]
Post subject:  noob to 4x4s
hey guys,

i'm a noob when it comes to 4x4s and what not, i just recently bought an 89 swb vitara and wanted to know what the difference between H/T and all-terrain T/A tyres are.
i'll be asking more questions so bear with me, i've never modified a 4x4 before but i'm not new to the automotive scene (previously owned b16a civic and 4agte sprinter).

thanks,
andy
Author:  darkhorse528 [ Wed May 14, 2008 7:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: noob to 4x4s
I didn't know either so i checked it out on google.

Hope this helps..

http://www.4wdworld.com.au/tipstricks/tireterm_O2.htm
Author:  The_GRIZZ [ Wed May 14, 2008 10:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: noob to 4x4s
H/T = Highway Terrain, A/T = All Terrain, H/Ts are the muts nuts when it comes to driving on the road but thats all they are good for, A/T on the other hand are the median tyre nice on road hardly any noise and off road are pretty good.

A/Ts are the most common tyre on fourbys.

and the perfect tyre size i have gatherd from this site that you don't need any lift is 235/75 for the vit.
good luck mate.
Author:  sp1086 [ Thu May 15, 2008 10:44 am ]
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The_GRIZZ posted:and the perfect tyre size i have gatherd from this site that you don't need any lift is 235/75 for the vit.


Only if you have a EFI Vitara otherwise I dont go any biggerthan a 225/75/R15 This is mainly due to lack of H.P. on the Carby model for highway driving. I am getting a set of 215/75/R15 Cooper ATR's for my Stock'a Vit which is carby. I was quoted around the $180ea. The 225/75/R15 Cooper ATR are about $205 - $210 ea Good tyre with a great warrenty.

If your not wanting to spend that much go for a MAXXIS AT which are still a great tyre at only $155ea for a 225/75/R15

If you have any questions about Vitara's myself or Royce have a wealth of info..
Author:  The_GRIZZ [ Thu May 15, 2008 2:33 pm ]
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sp1086 the skuz box that is my zook is 1.6 carby and it pushes 235's around pretty easy and my MAXXIS tyres only costed around $137 each.

Or if you want wider tyres but same diameter as a 225/75 go a 235/70R15 don't know how hard they are to find but it will have stance and wont throw the speedo out much along with being easier to spin

And i own same thing as you mate 89 SWB Vitara 1.6 carby
Author:  sp1086 [ Thu May 15, 2008 8:16 pm ]
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Yeah I mainly am staying with a 215/75 for legallity & insuence reasons.


Thats a cheap MAXXIS price mate.. ;)
Author:  The_GRIZZ [ Thu May 15, 2008 8:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: noob to 4x4s
Joyride are you in QLD?
Author:  joyride [ Fri May 16, 2008 6:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: noob to 4x4s
Hi All, thanks for the replies.

I'm from Sydney, i noticed that alot of the guys on the forums are QLDers.
my vitara has 30x9.5 nankang H/T tyres on the front and 30x9.5 BFG A/T on the back. I bought it like that so don't ask me why it is...
I guess it shouldnt worry me too much because for now its my daily driver to the traino and back home which is only about an 8 minute drive.

I don't intend to take it offroading but later on when its in better shape I'll have a bit of fun.
Author:  The_GRIZZ [ Fri May 16, 2008 7:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: noob to 4x4s
at least you don't need to deal with the stupid ass laws me and sp1086 have to put up with in QLD so much for smart state more like nanny state.

do ya have any trouble with the car turing the 30's?
Author:  steve [ Fri May 16, 2008 8:04 pm ]
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lots of people have 31s on a standard geared Sierra (1.3L carby) :)
Author:  Damo [ Fri May 16, 2008 8:49 pm ]
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steve wrote:
lots of people have 31s on a standard geared Sierra (1.3L carby) :)


I've found you do lose a bit up top though.
Author:  joyride [ Fri May 16, 2008 8:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: noob to 4x4s
The_GRIZZ wrote:
at least you don't need to deal with the stupid ass laws me and sp1086 have to put up with in QLD so much for smart state more like nanny state.

do ya have any trouble with the car turing the 30's?


i can't really say because i have no comparison, but what i've noticed driving the vitara is the steering is surprisingly lighter then what i would have expected.
the acceleration is shit, but i didnt buy it to win any drag races. it struggles abit to get to 60km/h but i don't floor the accelerator pedal to get there.
Author:  joyride [ Fri May 16, 2008 9:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: noob to 4x4s
i have some questions, do soft top JLX vitaras come with air con?
i thought JLXs would, but having air con in a soft top is pointless, right?

also my vitara doesnt have manual hubs (correct terminology?), i don't need to get out of the car and 'lock' the hubs (again, terminology?). why is this? has an aftermarket part been put in? i told you i was a noob.
Author:  joyride [ Fri May 16, 2008 9:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: noob to 4x4s
heres another a few questions:

so the driver side power window switch isnt working. the passenger side window switch also doesnt work. does the passenger side run off the driver side?

is there supposed to be a fusebox for the citara? i know theres one in the engine bay next to the battery and should there be anothter one in the driver/passenger footwells?
the haynes manual does nothing for me, unless i'm reading the wrong area or there is no other fusebox.
Author:  royce [ Fri May 16, 2008 9:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: noob to 4x4s
joyride wrote:
i have some questions, do soft top JLX vitaras come with air con?
i thought JLXs would, but having air con in a soft top is pointless, right?

also my vitara doesnt have manual hubs (correct terminology?), i don't need to get out of the car and 'lock' the hubs (again, terminology?). why is this? has an aftermarket part been put in? i told you i was a noob.


I dont think any vitara came out with aircon standard, they were a factory option, but not sure, anyone got a jlx without aircon?

some vitaras had auto hubs fitted standard, they may be a good idea but they are also funny to play up and being able to unlock the front driveshafts when you want is useful if you damage something in the front driveline
Author:  wardy [ Fri May 16, 2008 10:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: noob to 4x4s
i have a 91 jlx swb soft top and has no factory air con and i had the same problem with the elec windows had to replace the whole switch wish cost a heafty 170 bucks. the driver window tends to leak while raining and water drips directly onto the main window swich happens in mine and 1 of my mates with same model vitara.
Author:  joeblow [ Fri May 16, 2008 11:02 pm ]
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lwb jlx vitaras were the only ones with factory air...mmmm....air....
Author:  joyride [ Sat May 17, 2008 6:28 pm ]
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thanks for the updates,
Author:  magnat [ Sun May 18, 2008 1:33 am ]
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joyride... Take that puppy and point it down the nearest muddy road you can !!!

No real point in getting a 4B and not taking it off road !!

Once you have taken her down a few fire trails. It will be hard to stop you from heading back out again !

I am 1.5 hours South of Sydney in the Southern Highlands and we have tracks that are rated From AWD Magna to Hilux with Lockers..

We can find a trail that you will enjoy and be able to flex the Vits suspension...

As for Acceleration, my Folks 91 SWB 5 Speed is pretty nimble.. a set of Extractors really brought it to life...
my LWB is Fuel injected and its not as nimble lol!
Author:  just_cruizin [ Sun May 18, 2008 4:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: noob to 4x4s
sp1086 wrote:
If you have any questions about Vitara's myself or Royce have a wealth of info..


Talk yourself up why don't ya Chris :lol: :lol:

Damo wrote:
steve wrote:
lots of people have 31s on a standard geared Sierra (1.3L carby) :)


I've found you do lose a bit up top though.


And some don't have much to lose, but we're not talking about 4WDs now :roll:
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