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datso
Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 242 Location: Melbourne
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are g16b engine able to have a 3mm bore increase or will that sacrifice its overall integrity too much? Im just interested as in the old days suzisport advertised 1750cc piston kits which now dissapeared.
3mm oversize will give 1720cc
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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perhaps they were using dished pistons also? (EFI g16 has dished and i believe carby doesn't?)
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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Piston crown dimensions will not alter the swept volume.
3mm over is a fair wack! I have no idea how thick the liners in them are.
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pezz

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Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2108 Location: western vic
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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Rod length also will not make any difference in the capacity as the stroke is determined by the crank throw and the rod just relays that.
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henno

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Joined: Tue Jul 23, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 2439 Location: Brisbane
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JrZook wrote: Rod length also will not make any difference in the capacity as the stroke is determined by the crank throw and the rod just relays that. Yep. A common misconception. I think it's because so many "stroker kits" come with new rods and humans have a tendency to make up their own links between causation and correlation: "Increased engine capacity needed new rods, therefore new rods increase engine capacity.", or something like that.
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
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At 3mm there would be no gasket left between the cylinders when my motor bloke looked in to it
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droverdave
Joined: Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:43 am Posts: 685
Vehicle: 85 ' Drover
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henno wrote: JrZook wrote: Rod length also will not make any difference in the capacity as the stroke is determined by the crank throw and the rod just relays that. Yep. A common misconception. I think it's because so many "stroker kits" come with new rods and humans have a tendency to make up their own links between causation and correlation: "Increased engine capacity needed new rods, therefore new rods increase engine capacity.", or something like that. Only some of them:P What is the biggest oversize piston you can buy from a reputable piston manufacturer? That's how big i would be goin...
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got_bar_work
Joined: Sat May 15, 2010 8:30 pm Posts: 2214 Location: Brisbane
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losfer

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Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 977
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78mm mazda pistons and a custom head gasket from ACL . The little end of the rod needs to be reamed out to 20mm ..
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losfer

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Joined: Fri Mar 30, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 977
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haha d , its n0madic from redline , thought i seen questions about the apv engine etc in 2 places...
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pezz

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Joined: Fri May 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2108 Location: western vic
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JrZook wrote: Rod length also will not make any difference in the capacity as the stroke is determined by the crank throw and the rod just relays that. hi, my name is pezz.. im from amature hour.... next time i will think before i type..  i should know better than this anyhow, off to crawl into a hole now... i feel dumb
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datso
Joined: Fri Jan 30, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 242 Location: Melbourne
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losfer wrote: 78mm mazda pistons and a custom head gasket from ACL . The little end of the rod needs to be reamed out to 20mm .. can you share more about the pistons or results? I know the head gasket is 77mm so did you make a new one and impression or opinons on this setup? losfer wrote: haha d , its n0madic from redline , thought i seen questions about the apv engine etc in 2 places... Heya D Man, thought I was repeating myself or hearing my own echo!  few G16 fans in this little world maybe more here than there
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