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Author:  TryHard [ Tue May 17, 2011 6:11 am ]
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well i keep braking transfer case mounts i made my self a solid and a broke another stock one now im gona make the other 2 solid ..

and i am going to buy a transfer skid .. or cradle .. something like the mighty kong or pref the ZOR unbreakable one problem is atm there on back order 4 weeks etc. .... to sum it up im worried making all my mounts solid will stress my transfer case to much with out installing a transfer case ring ..

eg
http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... ake-1.html

Author:  mnemonix [ Tue May 17, 2011 6:43 am ]
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Are you breaking genuine rubber mounts, or the Bridgestone knockoffs?
I can shred a bridgestone one without making it out of my driveway.

The dangers of solid mounting are small, If anythin you may notice some added vibration.
However there is a risk of transfering the weak point elsewhere.
ie: When I went to solid mounts, I ripped the welded mount clean off the chassis. Thats a hell of a problem to sort offroad with minimal tools.

Author:  SuziBlu [ Tue May 17, 2011 6:53 am ]
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Id be looking into the reason, something sounds amiss.

Author:  TryHard [ Tue May 17, 2011 6:58 am ]
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mnemonix wrote:
Are you breaking genuine rubber mounts, or the Bridgestone knockoffs?
I can shred a bridgestone one without making it out of my driveway.

The dangers of solid mounting are small, If anythin you may notice some added vibration.
However there is a risk of transfering the weak point elsewhere.
ie: When I went to solid mounts, I ripped the welded mount clean off the chassis. Thats a hell of a problem to sort offroad with minimal tools.



well i got my mounts from Suzi store in perth and iv gone though them very quickly eg 10 min off road i brake one fit new one brake it again .. then i decided to fab my on soild mount for that side .. then iv noticed iv broke another mount but yer .. im running 6.5s and im worryed about braking the box i really wanta get the ZOR Unbreakable Cradle plus it has a ring on it so it should fit all my probs i would think

lets just say the mounts im using dont seem to be very strong at all ..

Author:  boostedbrick [ Tue May 17, 2011 7:06 am ]
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How are these solid mounts made? Im running a body lift block with a 10mm high tensile, i dare say i would bend a mount before snapping one of those bolts. In the end something else is going to take the strain.

Author:  Bruce [ Tue May 17, 2011 7:11 am ]
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http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... ic&t=15518

These are great.

Author:  TryHard [ Tue May 17, 2011 7:12 am ]
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boostedbrick wrote:
How are these solid mounts made? Im running a body lift block with a 10mm high tensile, i dare say i would bend a mount before snapping one of those bolts. In the end something else is going to take the strain.


cut up some square tubeing HT bolts some washers .. etc pritty back yard

.. the new mounts i was thinking of making is just some suspension bush's with the metal insert with some HT bolts though it .. what do u think

Author:  JrZook [ Tue May 17, 2011 7:13 am ]
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TryHard wrote:
mnemonix wrote:
Are you breaking genuine rubber mounts, or the Bridgestone knockoffs?
I can shred a bridgestone one without making it out of my driveway.

The dangers of solid mounting are small, If anythin you may notice some added vibration.
However there is a risk of transfering the weak point elsewhere.
ie: When I went to solid mounts, I ripped the welded mount clean off the chassis. Thats a hell of a problem to sort offroad with minimal tools.



well i got my mounts from Suzi store in perth and iv gone though them very quickly eg 10 min off road i brake one fit new one brake it again .. then i decided to fab my on soild mount for that side .. then iv noticed iv broke another mount but yer .. im running 6.5s and im worryed about braking the box i really wanta get the ZOR Unbreakable Cradle plus it has a ring on it so it should fit all my probs i would think

lets just say the mounts im using dont seem to be very strong at all ..


All these mounts ive got from that chain of stores are non genuine garbage. I think they stick the rubber on with blu-tac!

Author:  TryHard [ Tue May 17, 2011 7:14 am ]
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Bruce wrote:
http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=15518

These are great.


im Sure there great mate :) and they do look well made but im not really a fan of moving the Transbox any higher then stock Position

Author:  TryHard [ Tue May 17, 2011 7:15 am ]
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JrZook wrote:
TryHard wrote:
mnemonix wrote:
Are you breaking genuine rubber mounts, or the Bridgestone knockoffs?
I can shred a bridgestone one without making it out of my driveway.

The dangers of solid mounting are small, If anythin you may notice some added vibration.
However there is a risk of transfering the weak point elsewhere.
ie: When I went to solid mounts, I ripped the welded mount clean off the chassis. Thats a hell of a problem to sort offroad with minimal tools.



well i got my mounts from Suzi store in perth and iv gone though them very quickly eg 10 min off road i brake one fit new one brake it again .. then i decided to fab my on soild mount for that side .. then iv noticed iv broke another mount but yer .. im running 6.5s and im worryed about braking the box i really wanta get the ZOR Unbreakable Cradle plus it has a ring on it so it should fit all my probs i would think

lets just say the mounts im using dont seem to be very strong at all ..


All these mounts ive got from that chain of stores are non genuine garbage. I think they stick the rubber on with blu-tac!


thanks for clearing that up JR.. and yes it seems thats how there stuck togher haha looks like more soilid mounts on the way lol

Author:  Scrawny [ Tue May 17, 2011 8:52 am ]
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TryHard wrote:
Bruce wrote:
http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=15518

These are great.


im Sure there great mate :) and they do look well made but im not really a fan of moving the Transbox any higher then stock Position


Read on. You can get lifted or standard height :wink:

Author:  Bruce [ Tue May 17, 2011 9:03 am ]
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TryHard wrote:
Bruce wrote:
http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=15518

These are great.


im Sure there great mate :) and they do look well made but im not really a fan of moving the Transbox any higher then stock Position


THey are made for Std height as well mate. I run a std set in my Drover and a lifted set in my comp sierra.

Author:  Gwagensteve [ Tue May 17, 2011 9:04 am ]
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mnemonix wrote:
Are you breaking genuine rubber mounts, or the Bridgestone knockoffs?
I can shred a bridgestone one without making it out of my driveway.


I'm pretty sure the Bridgestone ones are OEM, the ones with no ID on them are the knockoffs.

I've had the opposite experience - every unbranded one I've seen has failed, sometimes not even lasting the day.

Author:  Teracis [ Tue May 17, 2011 9:45 am ]
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You lads are getting me worried about my tcase mounts, are they really that easy to break? I have 6.5's but then again I also have a really tired motor and am only running 29's

Author:  nato78 [ Tue May 17, 2011 9:34 pm ]
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Get yourself a roctoy ring off the guy from outers and make yourself one of these, one of the easiest mods I've done

http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... ic&t=21077

Author:  oozuk [ Tue May 17, 2011 10:16 pm ]
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really depends on your driving style too, I'm running 140ish HP 4.1transfer gears with a mighty kong on 33's and don't have a broken rubber mount,
i would much rather change a broken mount in the bush than try and figure out how to re-attach a chassis mount when it tares off the chassis

Author:  jonno_racing [ Tue May 17, 2011 10:24 pm ]
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just cruzin kit. so good! i have changed the hight of my transfer a few times now!

Author:  JrZook [ Wed May 18, 2011 12:29 am ]
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Teracis wrote:
You lads are getting me worried about my tcase mounts, are they really that easy to break? I have 6.5's but then again I also have a really tired motor and am only running 29's


The genuine ones arn't that easy to break at all! We are talking about the new aftermarket ones. They are rubbish! For piece of mind just track down a few secondhand originals in good condition!

Author:  JrZook [ Wed May 18, 2011 12:31 am ]
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nato78 wrote:
Get yourself a roctoy ring off the guy from outers and make yourself one of these, one of the easiest mods I've done

http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... ic&t=21077


Thats not really gonna help here. We are talking about the actually rubber mounts to the chassis! Rocktoy ring or not, if you get shitty rubber mounts their still gonna basically fall apart in your driveway!

Author:  Taff [ Wed May 18, 2011 12:43 am ]
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cost $17.80ea from KB auto.

Part # is MT8135.

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This is just many options of larger rubber mounts if you go looking for them. Best thing is they are still a weak link, just a slightly stronger weak link.

Author:  TryHard [ Wed May 18, 2011 12:50 am ]
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thanks for the info guys :) il fix something up :)

Author:  nato78 [ Wed May 18, 2011 7:50 am ]
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JrZook wrote:
nato78 wrote:
Get yourself a roctoy ring off the guy from outers and make yourself one of these, one of the easiest mods I've done

http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... ic&t=21077


Thats not really gonna help here. We are talking about the actually rubber mounts to the chassis! Rocktoy ring or not, if you get shitty rubber mounts their still gonna basically fall apart in your driveway!


It's the twisting of the case due to increased torque From the 6.5's that causes the rubber mounts to break. By strengthening the case and your attachment points, you reduce that twisting and subsequently the breakages to the rubber mounts

Author:  JrZook [ Wed May 18, 2011 8:01 am ]
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nato78 wrote:
JrZook wrote:
nato78 wrote:
Get yourself a roctoy ring off the guy from outers and make yourself one of these, one of the easiest mods I've done

http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... ic&t=21077


Thats not really gonna help here. We are talking about the actually rubber mounts to the chassis! Rocktoy ring or not, if you get shitty rubber mounts their still gonna basically fall apart in your driveway!


It's the twisting of the case due to increased torque From the 6.5's that causes the rubber mounts to break. By strengthening the case and your attachment points, you reduce that twisting and subsequently the breakages to the rubber mounts


You have a point but if the rubber is poorly adheared to the mount twisting or not it will just fall apart and let go. My single side mount is un-strengthened and looks liek a pretzel atm but the secondhand genuine rubber mount is still holding in there. Ive gone through 3 of those non genuine junk ones just driving on the road. The old rubbers have been holding up fine for 2 years now..

Author:  boostedbrick [ Wed May 18, 2011 8:19 am ]
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I pulled my transfer today and found something interesting, the single mount had buckled around the bolt hole. The mount dosent appear to have bent, just around the bolt hole. Since i did this with 4.9s and im going to 6.5s im getting a replacement out of 8mm plate so hopefully that will fix it, and attaching it to a roctoy ring at the same time. Hopefully not rip the chassis mount off in the process.

Author:  oozuk [ Wed May 18, 2011 9:55 am ]
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TryHard wrote:
well i keep braking transfer case mounts i made my self a solid and a broke another stock one now im gona make the other 2 solid ..

and i am going to buy a transfer skid .. or cradle .. something like the mighty kong or pref the ZOR unbreakable one problem is atm there on back order 4 weeks etc. .... to sum it up im worried making all my mounts solid will stress my transfer case to much with out installing a transfer case ring ..

eg
http://www.lowrangeoffroad.com/index.ph ... ake-1.html


This is what I did, a mighty kong with a rocktoy welded to it. But I left the STD mounts on it as a fusable link.
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Author:  UBZ [ Thu May 19, 2011 6:29 am ]
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This is what I'm currently working on. Will eventually incorporate a skid plate and re-enforced arms. Setup is designed to work with the transfer mounted hand break on a NT SJ413

Author:  TryHard [ Thu May 19, 2011 6:59 am ]
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Not Bad Set up :) i like it :)

Author:  jdk81 [ Wed Nov 23, 2011 4:40 am ]
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I'm waiting for my roctoy ring to arrive, but started making my cradle out of scrap at work when its quiet.

I welded brackets to the work bench, and bolted the original transfer mounts and transfer to it etc. Then used that a base to start making the new mounts.
I was amazed how much the stock mounts flex.

I tapped the holes where the mounts for the transfer handbrake and the pto would be, to use for bracing.

A roctoy ring will go on the front too, bracing front and back.

I installed a 40mm transfer lift and stock rubber mounts as the weak point.

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