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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:25 am |
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Ok well i am at cross roads with my zook atm.
i have 2 options to go with.
#1 Keep it basically as it is, put some beef cake mounts on the rear diff, (have them now) add rear locker air. keep front open, and some double black flairs
i used to have this set up with VERY few times the capability has let me down. always kept up with the big trucks and have had very few breakages, the only real ones were recovering bigger trucks that i DON'T do anymore!
#2, wide track rear diff, with coiler mounts, mini spool rear, front housing modded to take wt gear, front locker, cromo's 33's etc etc, this option is going to be a whole lot more on the budget and make it a whole lot more cop bait.
keep in mind i am a long way from tassie (where the car is rego'd) so defects are going to fuck me over pretty bad. re rego in nsw etc...
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9348 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:28 am |
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Option 2 is going to be my path, but with an auto locker in the back.
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 3:34 am |
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What are you trying to do, bit more info needed.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:00 am |
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id very much like to comp the zook. but its my only car atm! however i have 3 months with no license (see no job as well) i can do most of the fab work myself.
i am thinking of going path #1 atm then once i have new job and daily/tow rig etc go down path #2.
but just wondering what others opinions are.
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:10 am |
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hey man do what im doing its rather cheap but it will let u do some small comps and u should do rather well ..
depending on your budget do ..
2 x auto lockers front / rear ..
26 spline cromolys
RUF
2 inch body lift
Elliptical rear
33s
6.5s transgears
cut wheel archs ..or take hammer to it .
and run 31s when u dont play comes or play to hard all so keep it clean and tidy
.. i know how u feel id love to comp my zook to but is my only car .. keep it clean
in a ideal world id go 3 link front and rear ..with coil overs hilux diffs 37s
and air locks .. and ute chop the rear
Last edited by TryHard on Fri May 20, 2011 4:14 am, edited 1 time in total.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:13 am |
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TryHard wrote: hey man do what im doing its rather cheap but it will let u do some small comps and u should do rather well ..
depending on your budget do ..
2 x auto lockers front / rear .. 26 spline cromolys RUF 2 inch body lift Elliptical rear 33s 6.5s transgears cut wheel archs ..or take hammer to it . and run 31s when u dont play comes or play to hard all so keep it clean and tidy
Dude its a coily how the hell is he going to do a RUF!!
non of your post is relevant as you cant get lockers for a front coily diff.
nore chromos!
WTF!
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:14 am |
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tanshi wrote: TryHard wrote: hey man do what im doing its rather cheap but it will let u do some small comps and u should do rather well ..
depending on your budget do ..
2 x auto lockers front / rear .. 26 spline cromolys RUF 2 inch body lift Elliptical rear 33s 6.5s transgears cut wheel archs ..or take hammer to it . and run 31s when u dont play comes or play to hard all so keep it clean and tidy Dude its a coily how the hell is he going to do a RUF!! non of your post is relevant as you cant get lockers for a front coily diff. nore chromos! WTF!
i did not realise its a coily gezz lol bin it then 
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:22 am |
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have a look at my build.
i already have 6.5s and 31" tsl's
just not sure to go bigger or not. its very rare i get stuck or break it. i think i might go for it as is.. do a comp and go from there....
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:25 am |
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jonno_racing wrote: have a look at my build. i already have 6.5s and 31" tsl's just not sure to go bigger or not. its very rare i get stuck or break it. i think i might go for it as is.. do a comp and go from there....
Yerp would be a good start .. but what kinda comps do u want to do ..
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:27 am |
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if you comp it without doing chromos you will break it, guarenteed.
31s on sierra diffs you are going to get hung up on stuff, least if your comps are any thing like ours.
it all depends how much you wanna be compeditive. me forexample i dont do anything half assed, if i go into something i goin attempting to win. you may be different
a mate bought a $350dollar LJ, threw some 31s on it and came away with a trophy the first time we comped it. but we didnt go out to win.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:29 am |
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general short course stuff. id love to have a go at wilowglen. but i will find something a bit easier on my zook first!
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:30 am |
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tanshi wrote: if you comp it without doing chromos you will break it, guarenteed.
31s on sierra diffs you are going to get hung up on stuff, least if your comps are any thing like ours.
it all depends how much you wanna be compeditive. me forexample i dont do anything half assed, if i go into something i goin attempting to win. you may be different
a mate bought a $350dollar LJ, threw some 31s on it and came away with a trophy the first time we comped it. but we didnt go out to win.
not going out to win. just to have some fun!
i dont have a front locker atm and have yet to break a front cv yet.
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:32 am |
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hey Stupid Question but how Different are the Coil Diff centres and the SJ70 Centres .. im guessing u Cant Just swap the centres over can u ..
that would be to simple .. ..
Im guessing u need the whole SJ70 Diff and weld the coily mounts onto it etc etc
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:35 am |
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the coily rear diff centre is the same as a sj70.
front diff is an odd ball. high pinion. If you could bolt up an SJ70 diff cetre you dont think the coily owners would have figured it out by now?
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TryHard
Joined: Thu May 13, 2010 1:49 am Posts: 1041 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:37 am |
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tanshi wrote: the coily rear diff centre is the same as a sj70.
front diff is an odd ball. high pinion. If you could bolt up an SJ70 diff cetre you dont think the coily owners would have figured it out by now?
yes thats why i said stupid question lol ... theres still no way to mix mach the cage etc ? .. why did Suzuki do this any reason
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 4:39 am |
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you can custom machine a jimny diff to fit airlockers aparently.
but why bother when WT diffs will do the job for cheaper
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:22 am |
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tanshi wrote: the coily rear diff centre is the same as a sj70.
front diff is an odd ball. high pinion. If you could bolt up an SJ70 diff cetre you dont think the coily owners would have figured it out by now?
you kind of can.
well it bolts in.
wt axels are 2 short. i have been thinking of cutting housing down.. not as dodgey as it seems. i just cant dont know if i can be bothered. lots of work!
this is what i am talking about in option 2.
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
Vehicle: Awesome!!
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 5:27 am |
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jonno_racing wrote: have a look at my build. i already have 6.5s and 31" tsl's just not sure to go bigger or not. its very rare i get stuck or break it. i think i might go for it as is.. do a comp and go from there....
Lol cmon man! Rarely breaking is something like 1 in 100 trips not 1 in 1 
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 6:32 am |
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JrZook wrote: jonno_racing wrote: have a look at my build. i already have 6.5s and 31" tsl's just not sure to go bigger or not. its very rare i get stuck or break it. i think i might go for it as is.. do a comp and go from there.... Lol cmon man! Rarely breaking is something like 1 in 100 trips not 1 in 1 
no realy. the only drive line issues i have had were all in one trip all caused buy one incident
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
Vehicle: Daisy
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 7:06 am |
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tanshi wrote: the coily rear diff centre is the same as a sj70.
front diff is an odd ball. high pinion. If you could bolt up an SJ70 diff cetre you dont think the coily owners would have figured it out by now?
I was led to believe the ratio's were different between WT and Coily though?
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
Vehicle: suzuki
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:08 am |
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Rusho

Tubby Elfsdong
Joined: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 6501 Location: Northside, Brisbane
Vehicle: Coily Sierra
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:14 am |
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Just throw a WT front under the front of it ya stubborn prick 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:19 am |
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who suggested RUF'ing a coily 
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steve

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 75 Cruiser
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:20 am |
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If you're going to change diffs and do comps, you may aswell screw some hilux diffs inplace of the coily diffs 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:30 am |
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steve wrote: If you're going to change diffs and do comps, you may aswell screw some hilux diffs inplace of the coily diffs 
 Bingo!!!!
& get a postie for a daily..... 
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steve

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:37 am |
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coily sierra with hilux diffs... (Rover Park 2004)
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Ridge
Joined: Tue Jun 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 942 Location: Brisbane
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 8:42 am |
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steak_knife wrote: steve wrote: If you're going to change diffs and do comps, you may aswell screw some hilux diffs inplace of the coily diffs   Bingo!!!! & get a postie for a daily..... 
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or you could just go a whole wt diff setup and get spacers to match the width of the rear. It would be a lot easier then shortening a diff and rotating knuckles etc like you had planed.
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jonno_racing

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Joined: Wed Apr 15, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 8164 Location: Tassie
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:23 pm |
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there is a lot off ways i could go. lux is defenanty there. however id need 35s to make up 4 loss.
atm its looking like a lot of work 4 medium gain.
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:28 pm |
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I'd work toward option two.
WT front diff to start with. When you blow a centre smack an airlocked one in their with cro-mo's.
When you current tires wear out then go 33's and upgrade your rear.
If you plan on staying in NSW find the local engineer and chat with him to see what he's happy with you doing.
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Lockie666

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Joined: Sat Apr 17, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 1874 Location: Perth
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 Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:35 pm |
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Option1. Cheaper and it still stays a coily.
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