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Author:  cooo [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 8:45 am ]
Post subject:  97 vitara vs 98 grand vitara

hi guys :)

Im after a new car, ive been searching for 4 door 2 litre vitaras, and i test drove one, it was a bit slower than i was hoping. But in the process i found some grand vitaras which i noticed are 2.5 litre so i was thinking it be nice to have a more powerful slightly new rig, thoughi prefer the look of the vitara to the gv.

I was wondering though what are the differences apart from the look and the engine? is one better for 4 wheel driving? one easier to get parts to modify for 4wding? (eg diff swaps for different ratios for bigger tyres etc)

any other general comparison stuff i should know about?

i appreciate any advice about the two rigs to help make my decision. I would personally prefer the older vitara, but if the grand vitara is overwhelmingly better for a similar price id prob get that, plus the 4 door 2 litre vitaras seem really hard to find..

thanks guys

btw i dont mean to get really serious with mods or anything, i want it to be a good for cruising on the highway but still capable for offroading, mud and snow, general fun. I was mainly planning on a suspension lift and maybe 31s and gear adjustments to suit

Author:  alexvitara [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 9:01 am ]
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you can put 5.12 diff centers from a 1.6L vit into the 2L vits for running bigger tires.

GV's have steel front diff rather than alloy in vitaras but i have heard that the early GV's still had alloy. maybe someone else can confirm that.

i also like the look of vits over GV's

Author:  vitzookman [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:20 am ]
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I vote 2.5L GV manual 98

No airbags so you can still body lift it and for roof racks that just clamp on the rails unlike the vitara with the rivets into the roof and it's harder to get 2L parts due to the short model run.

Author:  cooo [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:54 am ]
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what about the diffs in the gv? what are the options to correct the gearing for bigger tyres? do they have a actual chassis like vitaras and sierras?

how much do u think a standard manual 98 grand vitara with 100 000 ks on it should cost?

Author:  Mugwui [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:57 am ]
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The front diffs in the 98 GV are a mix & match so you just have to check the one your looking at. You can also put 5.12 into the GV. More Power, parts are not too bad to source, more mod cons and same body shape up to 2005 so will be more popular later on. They do have their problems, but what 13 yr old car doesn't. I've had mine for almost 5 years and very happy with it. Only major problems I've had have been my fault.

Author:  vitzookman [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 10:59 am ]
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I think others have said the vitara 5.12 diffs will do the job

Author:  vitzookman [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:01 am ]
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To quick for me mugwui lol....

Is yours modded or stock?

Author:  Mugwui [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:03 am ]
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cooo wrote:
what about the diffs in the gv? what are the options to correct the gearing for bigger tyres? do they have a actual chassis like vitaras and sierras?

Quote:
how much do u think a standard manual 98 grand vitara with 100 000 ks on it should cost?


$7,000 - $10,000.
they do have a chassis,
5.12 or 4.8

Author:  Mugwui [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:05 am ]
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vitzookman wrote:
To quick for me mugwui lol....

Is yours modded or stock?


Modded!

Check out my build thread under "Humzuki"

http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... pic&t=4723

Author:  Built4thrashing [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 11:07 am ]
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cooo wrote:
what about the diffs in the gv? what are the options to correct the gearing for bigger tyres? do they have a actual chassis like vitaras and sierras?

how much do u think a standard manual 98 grand vitara with 100 000 ks on it should cost?


Diff ratios available are 5.12, 4.8, 4.3. Yopu can swap some Vitara centers in. Lockright lockers will fit with some mods. Vitara airleakers also fit.

I bought my 98 GV last year with 163,00kms on it for $5000.00 no reg or RWC. its a 2.5 V6 manual. Ive since spent just over $3.5k on it to get it where it is. Locked, lifted, re-geared, winch and lots more. Parts are actually easy to get if you know where to look and are paitent.

Most go for about $8-15k

Author:  gregdixon [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:14 pm ]
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Get the gv. You can do the same mods as the vit, transfer, diff ratios, 31's, body lift, air or auto lockers front and rear. As more people mod gv's it will become cheaper and easier. Not to mention the 2.5 L and aircon :)

Author:  ninjamoses [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 12:18 pm ]
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Go the Vit, simply because there isn't that many modded SV620s on here and I'd like to see another one :)

They don't command much cash these days so I imagine you'd be able to get a decent one for $5k or so. The $3 - $4k you will save over the GV will be enough to mod the absolute shit out of it.

Author:  atari4x4 [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:03 pm ]
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ninjamoses wrote:
Go the Vit, simply because there isn't that many modded SV620s on here and I'd like to see another one :)

They don't command much cash these days so I imagine you'd be able to get a decent one for $5k or so. The $3 - $4k you will save over the GV will be enough to mod the absolute shit out of it.


^^ what he said Armsup

GV's look like jellybeans

Author:  gregdixon [ Mon Jul 11, 2011 1:05 pm ]
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atari4x4 wrote:
ninjamoses wrote:
Go the Vit, simply because there isn't that many modded SV620s on here and I'd like to see another one :)

They don't command much cash these days so I imagine you'd be able to get a decent one for $5k or so. The $3 - $4k you will save over the GV will be enough to mod the absolute shit out of it.


^^ what he said Armsup

GV's look like jellybeans


Wicked jellybeans though :twisted:

Author:  cooo [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:52 am ]
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thanks for the advice guys, ill keep my eye out for a gv, theres one in adelaide with low ks for 8 k, might have to go on a road trip.

it wouldnt happen to be easy to swap a 2.5 from the gv into the vitara would it?

Author:  Built4thrashing [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:05 pm ]
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gregdixon wrote:
atari4x4 wrote:
ninjamoses wrote:
Go the Vit, simply because there isn't that many modded SV620s on here and I'd like to see another one :)

They don't command much cash these days so I imagine you'd be able to get a decent one for $5k or so. The $3 - $4k you will save over the GV will be enough to mod the absolute shit out of it.


^^ what he said Armsup

GV's look like jellybeans


Wicked jellybeans though :twisted:


More like BLACK jellybeans. Only a few of us are twisted enough to want them.

Author:  tombutt [ Thu Jul 14, 2011 9:21 pm ]
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I vote sv620 vit cheaper to buy and parts are fairly easy

Author:  atari4x4 [ Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:54 am ]
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Built4thrashing wrote:
gregdixon wrote:
atari4x4 wrote:
ninjamoses wrote:
Go the Vit, simply because there isn't that many modded SV620s on here and I'd like to see another one :)

They don't command much cash these days so I imagine you'd be able to get a decent one for $5k or so. The $3 - $4k you will save over the GV will be enough to mod the absolute shit out of it.


^^ what he said Armsup

GV's look like jellybeans


Wicked jellybeans though :twisted:


More like BLACK jellybeans. Only a few of us are twisted enough to want them.


you're a sicko :lol:

Author:  MacDaddy [ Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:10 am ]
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gregdixon wrote:
Get the gv. You can do the same mods as the vit, transfer, diff ratios, 31's, body lift, air or auto lockers front and rear. As more people mod gv's it will become cheaper and easier. Not to mention the 2.5 L and aircon :)


X 2
If you want a great, and very comfy road tourer, with offroad ability, and power to spare, then the GV is what you want... put in a lift kit, fit some good rubber, 245's fit on the standard rims easily, and it will go most places you put in front of it... if you want it to go harder offroad, then do as suggested above... :wink: :D

Author:  cooo [ Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:14 am ]
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whats a good size tyre to put on if im not altering the gearing? 30"?

Author:  Built4thrashing [ Fri Jul 15, 2011 9:21 am ]
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cooo wrote:
whats a good size tyre to put on if im not altering the gearing? 30"?


225/75/16 fit and are still very driveable with stock gearing. any bigger and you have to start cutting plastic trims for clearance.

Author:  cooo [ Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:41 am ]
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I bought this fo $6400, im picking it up tomorrow arvo, booyah!

I wanna do a suspension lift, just 40 mm or something what is the best option for this? are the iron man kits on ebay any good? thanks guys

Author:  alexvitara [ Sun Jul 17, 2011 7:04 am ]
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good choice it looks very neat.
if i ever get another vit it'll definitely be a SV

Author:  Taylor74 [ Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:15 am ]
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Top of the wozza for its year, Dust bags and ABS, Im impressed. :D

Author:  Joe [ Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:29 am ]
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cooo wrote:
I bought this fo $6400, im picking it up tomorrow arvo, booyah!

I wanna do a suspension lift, just 40 mm or something what is the best option for this? are the iron man kits on ebay any good? thanks guys


Nice buy :D i've been looking at that one on carsales
It seems that all the good SV's are over east :(

Author:  MacDaddy [ Sun Jul 17, 2011 8:42 am ]
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cooo wrote:
I bought this fo $6400, im picking it up tomorrow arvo, booyah!

I wanna do a suspension lift, just 40 mm or something what is the best option for this? are the iron man kits on ebay any good? thanks guys


Very Good buy ! 8O

I have the Ironman 35mm lift kit thats on ebay, in my 01 GV, and i am very happy with it, i got 55mm lift in the rear empty, with toolbox and other gear 40mm... it is stiffer/firmer than stock, but its not uncomfortable, i like the firmness, and loosing the body roll around corners was good... as for offroad, no more underbody bangs or scrapes, plus i have got some good air, and they are still going strong, and i got almost twice the flex over stock... :wink: :D

Author:  tombutt [ Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:04 am ]
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nice buy mate im sure you will have some fun in it ive got outdoor auto springs in mine they ride well but thats about all i can say

i have dobinson struts in the front which seem great and are 40mm extended i know king springs do 40mm lifted springs for these and rear shocks im yet to find a good cheap option for as i find my commodore shocks to soft for the extra wieght in the lwb

Author:  cooo [ Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:20 am ]
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hey what do you guys use for the homemade looking black flares heaps of people have got, the black rubber stuff?

Author:  alexvitara [ Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:23 am ]
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you can get it at arb, tjm etc or clark rubber.
or bunnings garden edging

Author:  tombutt [ Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:56 am ]
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Garden edging on the pastic trim doesn't really work and with out wrecking your gearing 225/75/16 is props as big as you want to go as bigger will wreck gearing and need to cut plastic and alike. With that size tyre on standard rims you won't need the flare material

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