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Author:  Philbilly [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:06 am ]
Post subject:  Driving With Hubs Locked

Dunno if this has been covered lately, but tell me, is driving around with the hubs locked gunna cause any other issues other than extra fuel consuption? I'm only talking just local stuff- 5- 10 kays before getting to the dirt / sand.

Cheers,

Phil

Author:  trity [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

dunno about just hubs locked and in 2wd but correct me if i'm wrong if you drive in high 4 or low 4 on the bitchumen it could cause axle wrap?

Author:  Jackson [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:12 am ]
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I would think it would just be unnecessary wear as your wheels would be driving everything back to the transfer.

Author:  Scrawny [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:15 am ]
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Driving in 2wd with the hubs locked in will just increase fuel consumption.

Driving in 4wd on sealed surfaces will not cause axle wrap, it will cause 'wind-up' in the transfer.

Author:  shakes [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

Scrawn wrote:
Driving in 2wd with the hubs locked in will just increase fuel consumption.


Depending how well serviced your hubs are can also cause them to over-heat and do damage.

Author:  zuk_244 [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

shakes wrote:
Scrawn wrote:
Driving in 2wd with the hubs locked in will just increase fuel consumption.


Depending how well serviced your hubs are can also cause them to over-heat and do damage.


X2
Ive forgotten to take the hubs out afew times. When i took the front axles out awhile ago they had black hot spots on the CVs where the balls are.

I dont think it would be a issue at low speeds but if your doing 80kph+ they would build up some heat.

Author:  shep [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

mine haven't been unlocked for the last 15000km.

Author:  TryHard [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:39 am ]
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shep wrote:
mine haven't been unlocked for the last 15000km.


Shep do they even have Roads where u live : :wink:

Author:  stocker [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

why do people with fulltime 4wd's convert them to part times with manual locking hubs...

To save on fuel
To save on Wear and tear :)

Author:  Bruce [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:22 am ]
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stocker wrote:
why do people with fulltime 4wd's convert them to part times with manual locking hubs...

To save on fuel
To save on Wear and tear :)


Correct

Author:  2stroker [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:06 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

Philbilly wrote:
Dunno if this has been covered lately, but tell me, is driving around with the hubs locked gunna cause any other issues other than extra fuel consuption? I'm only talking just local stuff- 5- 10 kays before getting to the dirt / sand.

Cheers,

Phil


Back to the original question, no it will not cuase any other issues if you are talking 5-10kms getting to dirt/sand.

Author:  2stroker [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:07 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

shakes wrote:
Scrawn wrote:
Driving in 2wd with the hubs locked in will just increase fuel consumption.


Depending how well serviced your hubs are can also cause them to over-heat and do damage.


Nah, hubs wont overheat regardless of if they are serviced or not, they have no moving parts when driving.

Author:  3cyl [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

Those hot marks are on CVs from new, they heat treat the bell when they manufacture them, your hubs won't overheat, you'll just use slightly more fuel, you would be lucky to even measure the difference over 50 km.
Of course that's if there's grease in there.

Author:  JrZook [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

3cyl wrote:
Those hot marks are on CVs from new, they heat treat the bell when they manufacture them, your hubs won't overheat, you'll just use slightly more fuel, you would be lucky to even measure the difference over 50 km.
Of course that's if there's grease in there.


x2

Author:  Philbilly [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

Exellent, thanks guys :) So all is good for short range stuff- I'm just a lazy bugger and would sooner flick them over at home when I'm about to leave rather than hop out off the warm car and do it once I hit the dirt or sand. :oops:

Would there be any advantages to leaving the hubs in (again, I'm talking shortish runs)? I mean, like move some parts around to keep the oil / greese spread etc?

Cheers,

Phil

Author:  Liljim [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

I used to work for a certain government department who's policy was to NEVER unlock the hubs on their vehicles. they went for over 100,000km without any issue.

Author:  christover1 [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 7:47 am ]
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I always lock up hubs 10 or 20 k's before wheeling.
Helps warm up and lubricate front diff etc, before needing it off road.

Author:  truongski [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:15 am ]
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2stroker wrote:
Nah, hubs wont overheat regardless of if they are serviced or not, they have no moving parts when driving.


I have manual hubs on the GV and sometimes they get hot after city driving. Would this be because of the heat transfer from the brakes?

Author:  JrZook [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

truongski wrote:
2stroker wrote:
Nah, hubs wont overheat regardless of if they are serviced or not, they have no moving parts when driving.


I have manual hubs on the GV and sometimes they get hot after city driving. Would this be because of the heat transfer from the brakes?


Most likely, as well as wheel bearing heat.

Author:  truongski [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:22 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

JrZook wrote:
truongski wrote:
2stroker wrote:
Nah, hubs wont overheat regardless of if they are serviced or not, they have no moving parts when driving.


I have manual hubs on the GV and sometimes they get hot after city driving. Would this be because of the heat transfer from the brakes?


Most likely, as well as wheel bearing heat.


Hmmm... My house is only a few k's off the M1 and most times after a highway stint, the hubs are cool when I pull into the driveway.

If I did have a wheel bearing problem, wouldn't the hubs be warm/hot all the time?

Author:  JrZook [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

truongski wrote:
JrZook wrote:
truongski wrote:
2stroker wrote:
Nah, hubs wont overheat regardless of if they are serviced or not, they have no moving parts when driving.


I have manual hubs on the GV and sometimes they get hot after city driving. Would this be because of the heat transfer from the brakes?


Most likely, as well as wheel bearing heat.


Hmmm... My house is only a few k's off the M1 and most times after a highway stint, the hubs are cool when I pull into the driveway.

If I did have a wheel bearing problem, wouldn't the hubs be warm/hot all the time?


Yes. I should of just said that wheel bearings will generate some heat and will feel warm not hot after a while.

As you say city driving, the brakes will probably be your answer to the heat

Author:  truongski [ Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

JrZook wrote:
truongski wrote:
JrZook wrote:
truongski wrote:
2stroker wrote:
Nah, hubs wont overheat regardless of if they are serviced or not, they have no moving parts when driving.


I have manual hubs on the GV and sometimes they get hot after city driving. Would this be because of the heat transfer from the brakes?


Most likely, as well as wheel bearing heat.


Hmmm... My house is only a few k's off the M1 and most times after a highway stint, the hubs are cool when I pull into the driveway.

If I did have a wheel bearing problem, wouldn't the hubs be warm/hot all the time?


Yes. I should of just said that wheel bearings will generate some heat and will feel warm not hot after a while.

As you say city driving, the brakes will probably be your answer to the heat


I'll keep and eye on it anyway. Cheers

Author:  TheOtherLeft [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 3:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

JrZook wrote:
truongski wrote:
JrZook wrote:
truongski wrote:
2stroker wrote:
Nah, hubs wont overheat regardless of if they are serviced or not, they have no moving parts when driving.


I have manual hubs on the GV and sometimes they get hot after city driving. Would this be because of the heat transfer from the brakes?


Most likely, as well as wheel bearing heat.


Hmmm... My house is only a few k's off the M1 and most times after a highway stint, the hubs are cool when I pull into the driveway.

If I did have a wheel bearing problem, wouldn't the hubs be warm/hot all the time?


Yes. I should of just said that wheel bearings will generate some heat and will feel warm not hot after a while.

As you say city driving, the brakes will probably be your answer to the heat


How hot are we talking about? Too hot to touch?

I've had my wheel bearings replaced a few months ago and FWH were serviced but the hubs still get quite warm after an hour or so of city driving.

I've done the jack up the car, grab the tyre at 6 & 12 o'clock and give it a wiggle and there was no play.

Author:  mika [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

sorry to hi-jack this thread but what's peoples opinions on hubs unlocked and transfer in 4 Low to effectively have 2 Low. I mean just to drive a few metres.

PS I know there is twin stick set ups and that you can also remove detent ball. just curious.

Author:  Gwagensteve [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

mika wrote:
sorry to hi-jack this thread but what's peoples opinions on hubs unlocked and transfer in 4 Low to effectively have 2 Low. I mean just to drive a few metres.

PS I know there is twin stick set ups and that you can also remove detent ball. just curious.


No problem. I do it all the time.

Steve.

Author:  sogone [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

So how does this change if you have a lock rite in the front? Will locked hubs be too much wind on the diff then?

Author:  christover1 [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

sogone wrote:
So how does this change if you have a lock rite in the front? Will locked hubs be too much wind on the diff then?


When they not under power, they unlock very easily.
Tho I imagine steering on greasey stuff could be an issue,
because it would stay locked.

I drive my vit in 4wd without hubs locked,
once a month,
at low speeds,
to keep front diff oiled well.
But it isn't recommended by Suzuki.

Author:  sogone [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

I meant by driving with hubs locked in having a locked front.

Author:  christover1 [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:01 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

sogone wrote:
I meant by driving with hubs locked in having a locked front.


I would not recommend that on road in 4wd.

In 2wd with my hubs locked it is fine at lower/medium speeds,
but its a bit unpredictable at high speeds.
But doesn't get any wind up probs.

Author:  sogone [ Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Driving With Hubs Locked

Ok. So I meant 2wd hubs locked in. With a locker will this cause problems
Wind up?

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