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| Author: | tonka_zook [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | sierra runnig 31's |
hi i was just woundring what mods you have to do to run 31 muddys under a zook i got a 2'' lift with exstanded shackels and a 1L trnsfercase. |
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| Author: | Mike [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
you'll need a body lift cut the front chassis outriggers off and maybe smooth out the lips inside the guards |
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| Author: | joeblow [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
to run them nicely piss those extended shackles off and run a 50mm spring lift and 50mm bodylift. |
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| Author: | tonka_zook [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
will the 1L transfercase run 31s |
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| Author: | Mike [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
you can run 31s with a 1.3 transfercase, it would be better with the 1 litre case than a 1.3 |
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| Author: | tonka_zook [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
but most people put reductive gears in the 1.3 transfercase when going over 30 |
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| Author: | Mike [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
i have 31's on my sierra with a standard 1.3 transfercase the one litre transfercase is geared lower which corrects for the tyres a bit the gearing isn't back to what it used to be with standard tyres but its closer than the 1.3 |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
with joe blows reccomendations everything will be legal except the tyres where as now your car has the extended shackles it could be done by the boys in blue |
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| Author: | Dee [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
Zook_Fan wrote: with joe blows reccomendations everything will be legal except the tyres where as now your car has the extended shackles it could be done by the boys in blue
IF you submit the paperwork for the body-lift to the transport department, & then get it approved & inspected, it would be legal, except for the tyres & extended shackles... (in QLD anyway) What driving do you want to do? Transfer gears can be had from the US for around $600-$700 at the moment with the good conversion rate. This suits very low speed (crawling) over rocks etc, if you want a bit faster low-range (mud bashin etc) maybe keep it as is... Just a note though, if you do start doing any hard/steep/slow speed 4x4ing theres a good chance you will burn your clutch out (my mates went the first day he took his car out on 31's with standard t'case and that wanst any hard stuff)...So if this happens, by the time to do a clutch replacement a second time you may as well have bought the gears to start with... |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
remember that for us running the 1.3 xfer case the 1.0 is better but because your speedo is already set up for the 1.0 it will be just the same out as if we left our 1.3 in. Reduction gears is probably the best way to go if you can spend the cash otherwise try it out burn out a clutch then when your bank recovers from that get the gears |
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| Author: | joeblow [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
for those of you in vic you can get the 31's legal too. |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 3:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
its just another plate isnt it? |
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| Author: | timmmy1 [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
hi guys i am unning 31's on my zook 1.3 and it runs them fine i got 2 inch body 2 inch spring and cut them rail things off and i can get full flex to the bump stops reduction gear help but not needed... if u put the 1L transfer that counter's the 31s..... |
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| Author: | tonka_zook [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
i do more mud driving than rock, hill climing |
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| Author: | joeblow [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
it doesn't matter what terrain you do, gearing determines load on a driveline. there is a formula which the industry uses. to run 31's properly you will need more than a one litre transfer, either diff gears or t/case gears. if you want to even the load up correctly and gain as much power back than diff gears are the way to go. if you want to get the engine revving to almost its original state while putting more load in mounts, uni's and other components after the t/case outputs than go t/case gears. |
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| Author: | basketcase [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
Zook_Fan wrote: remember that for us running the 1.3 xfer case the 1.0 is better but because your speedo is already set up for the 1.0 it will be just the same out as if we left our 1.3 in. Reduction gears is probably the best way to go if you can spend the cash otherwise try it out burn out a clutch then when your bank recovers from that get the gears
I think he has 1ltr zuk though, so the 1 ltr T/case in that is stock gearing. You could get some 1.3ltr diff housings with Vitara 5.12 centres. Would lower your gearing a bit. Or spending similar dollars and just get some transfer gears from the states. |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
that is pretty much what i meant that because the car is set up for those gears it doesnt help him having it as much as if a 1.3L owner had those gears |
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| Author: | tonka_zook [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
how much power do you lose with the 1.3 |
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| Author: | Mike [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
a bit i got a weber and it was noticable you probably want to do something to compensate |
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| Author: | tonka_zook [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
i been wanting to but a 180B in it but can't find 1 around |
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| Author: | Mike [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
180b? |
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| Author: | tonka_zook [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
out of a datsun |
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| Author: | Mike [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
i'd really like one of those 2.5 litre v6s out of a vitara |
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| Author: | dj181 [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
the L18 out of an old datsun really wont help u a lot......old cast iron block and very heavy compared to the g13 out of a sierra or even the g16 out of the vitara |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
my dream engine swap would be a worked 12a rotary, always loved rotary's and that way you could have the best of both worlds 4x4 and heaps of power |
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| Author: | zookkid [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
yeah but no torque |
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| Author: | zookkid [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
[quote="zookkid"]yeah but no torque,rotors cant pull shit- so ive herd |
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| Author: | Mike [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
they don't have much torque though thats the only problem but that aside it will work and it has been done |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
and they have a shit load of power for the weight. As long as you have traction it would get you were you wanted |
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| Author: | Mike [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: sierra runnig 31's |
i think there is one with a 13B down here somewhere |
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