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Author:  Mike [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:52 am ]
Post subject:  Starting problem
i went to start my zook the other day and it was really hard to start so i took off the air filter to see what was going on and it started
so it won't start with the air filter on when its cold but it starts fine with the filter on when its warmed up :?
has anyone else had a problem like this or know how i can fix it?

Cheers
Author:  steve [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:56 am ]
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you have a dead cat clogging up your airbox :wink:
Author:  Pubic [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:10 am ]
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sounds more like a gerbal.....

the cat would still cause dramas when its warm...
Author:  Scrawny [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:25 am ]
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Has the air filter been wet at some stage? If it starts fine when the filter is removed then it may be blocked.
Author:  Mike [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:24 pm ]
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its a brand new filter element
Author:  Scrawny [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:47 pm ]
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Does the auto choke work ok? Are there blocked breathers? If you start it without the air filter then put it back in does the engine die? Just trying to think of ideas for you, none of them may be any help.... :lol:
Author:  royce [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:36 pm ]
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air horn is on wrong and stopping the choke from coming on
take top off and refit then see if it starts
Author:  Scrawny [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:43 pm ]
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I think it's still got the standard electric horn Royce :lol:
Author:  royce [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:59 pm ]
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maybe he needs to blow the horn at the same time :D
Author:  Zook_Fan [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:54 pm ]
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yeah i could imagine doin that a 11 at night before going for a night run. I would be very popular with the neighbours
Author:  Scrawny [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:43 pm ]
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Zook_Fan wrote:
yeah i could imagine doin that a 11 at night before going for a night run. I would be very popular with the neighbours


Just remember you need to hold on all the way down the road too!! :twisted:
Author:  Damo [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:23 pm ]
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ScrawnC wrote:
Zook_Fan wrote:
yeah i could imagine doin that a 11 at night before going for a night run. I would be very popular with the neighbours


Just remember you need to hold on all the way down the road too!! :twisted:


Connect horn to stop lights, that will fix it.
Author:  Zook_Fan [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 8:35 pm ]
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off topic much anyway it may be that your carby needs quicker air because your air isnt working properly this was happening before i got my carby rebuilt
Author:  Mike [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:56 pm ]
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ScrawnC wrote:
I think it's still got the standard electric horn Royce :lol:


it does have an air horn
i thought that might of been my problem :wink:
it does have an auto choke that doesn't work
yes it keeps running when the filter is put back on
Author:  Scrawny [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:20 pm ]
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Opps, my bad!! :lol:

Must be an auto choke problem then...
Author:  Mike [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:23 pm ]
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but the auto choke didn't work before i had this problem
Author:  Scrawny [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:32 pm ]
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Hmmmm....

Drop around some time and I'll have a quick look for you if you like :lol:

It's hard diagnosing problems like this over the net. Maybe try some carb clean down the throat while it's running. Get the auto choke working again.

Ok, I'm out of ideas for now...
Author:  Mike [ Thu Jul 17, 2008 11:34 pm ]
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could the actual air filter element have something to do with it?
by the way its a weber :roll:
Author:  Brett [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:15 am ]
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what sort of air cleaner do you have? paper, washable, or steel mesh?
Author:  Mike [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:36 am ]
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its a round paper one i think the whole filter was made for a single barrel carbie on a crossflow
Author:  Zook_Fan [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:24 am ]
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get a filter that is made for your set up
Author:  Mike [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:33 am ]
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a filter off a 1970s 2litre escort?
Author:  Zook_Fan [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:38 am ]
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So did you do this webber thing real cheap get the carby of an escort and just put it on becase if that is what you have done it is no wonder these problems are coming about
Author:  Mike [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 2:58 am ]
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not cheap but i wasn't gonna pay like 600 bucks for a new one
before the carby was put on it was rebuilt but yes the jetting is wrong
it doesn't use an adaptor plate like must people the manifold was modified by an engineering place to fit the weber properly
it has run before fine with this setup
i've only had problems for maybe the last week or so
Author:  MART [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 3:56 am ]
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Hey Mike , got any photo's of your carb and filter , post them up , makes it easier to diagnose , Cheers Paul.
Author:  Mike [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:06 am ]
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this is the only pic i could find
Image
Author:  Mike [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:06 am ]
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and yes my engine bay is cleaner now :wink:
Author:  Mike [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:43 am ]
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ScrawnC wrote:
Does the auto choke work ok? Are there blocked breathers? If you start it without the air filter then put it back in does the engine die? Just trying to think of ideas for you, none of them may be any help.... :lol:

i just remembered that i also fitted a new filter on the breather hose
Author:  Scrawny [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 11:36 am ]
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That filter looks like it is big enough to feed that carby. Have you changed anything around the carby that could have caused this problem? Is the underside of the filter fouling on a linkage or vacuum line? It may just be a blockage in the carby itself?
Author:  royce [ Fri Jul 18, 2008 12:07 pm ]
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are you getting any fuel droplets on teh inside of the aircleaner when its cold?

webers suck for standoff like that, maybe it building up inside
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