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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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I've brought home a new zook with a heap of surface rust. No rust holes where's rusted threw which is why I brought it. However I have NFI about the procedure on rust repairing surface. I've wire wheeled it down so the rust is like that pock marked stuff like so:
Now do I keep taking it back to bare or should I get rust converter and convert, then bring it back again? Is that how it works?
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sierra35

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Joined: Fri May 06, 2011 4:38 am Posts: 139 Location: Sunshine Coast
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 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 10:59 pm |
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I personally would take it back to bare metal to try as best as possible to stop it from spreading..
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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Isn't that what rust converter does? Change it back to something work able to be cleaned up and painted?
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steve

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 7681 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 75 Cruiser
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 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:06 pm |
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If you want to keep the car for a long long time maybe put a fair bit of time in?
I'd just use rust converter then spray tar on it, go 4wding, keep it for two years then it'll be wrecked by then and buy another one.
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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 Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:07 pm |
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So bring it all the way back? Thanks Steve.
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7717 Location: Brisbane
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checked the other side of the panel to make sure it didnt start there?
get rid of as much rust as you can and then rust convert it.
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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 Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:14 am |
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It's on the bonnet and the tops clear. I brought it back so it was pock marked but no rust in the pock marks.
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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squibby
Joined: Wed May 11, 2011 3:13 am Posts: 645 Location: Brisbane
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steve wrote: If you want to keep the car for a long long time maybe put a fair bit of time in?
I'd just use rust converter then spray tar on it, go 4wding, keep it for two years then it'll be wrecked by then and buy another one.
x2. there's a brandname 'KRUST' that stuff is good. Turns really deep flakey rust into a hard surface and you just paint over it for a rough and ready finish to keep you going for a couple of years. Tar over any rust under the car so that the Pink slip man can't see it.
You can also buy 'ammorite' paint that has rust treatment included. Comes in standard colours, white, black. It ain't pretty but it's hard and it stops the rust from spreading.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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Yeah thats good. Just do as Steve said. Rust convert, then paint. Be carefull using a grinder to clean up rust on panels, as the heat generated can a) Warp the panel, or b) blister the paint on the other side.
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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 Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:13 am |
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Using one of them blue wire wheel drill attachments thing from bunnings. No grinders yet  It's like in between a flapper disc and a wire wheel? That has blue cement stuff on it? Like a kitchen scourer.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
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sogone wrote: Using one of them blue wire wheel drill attachments thing from bunnings. No grinders yet  It's like in between a flapper disc and a wire wheel? That has blue cement stuff on it? Like a kitchen scourer.
Its still an abrasive. Just take it slowly. 
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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Ok. Thanks for the advice. Almost done the drivers side sill. Bit more rust there. But only 2 the size of half a 5 cent piece? Where the tac welds were.
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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Fatzook wrote: sogone wrote: Using one of them blue wire wheel drill attachments thing from bunnings. No grinders yet  It's like in between a flapper disc and a wire wheel? That has blue cement stuff on it? Like a kitchen scourer. Its still an abrasive. Just take it slowly. 
That and I found out the hard way how goddamn thin Sierra panels are, you might be taking paint off.... But you be taking away precious metals too
Sand, rust convert. If you have the patience/skill weld in replacement sections.
Check out a product called POR15 to seal it up with afterwards.
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hotrodhutto

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Joined: Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:20 am Posts: 47 Location: Beaudesert Qld
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Definitely go with POR 15 used it many times, its the ducks nuts you dont even need to rust convert it just paint it on
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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 Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:32 am |
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It's all pretty awesome under the sil. Just those little holes I mentioned. Brought it back as far as I could. Just smashed it with rust convert. Where is POR15 available from? I was gonna use rust kill heavy duty primer after I'd converted it. Then bog to smooth it out, sand back and primer all over then paint. Sound about right?
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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 Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:26 am |
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Where'd all my rust experts bloody go.
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boostedbrick

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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 am Posts: 2003 Location: Brisbane
Vehicle: 2018 DMAX
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 Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:35 am |
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Those blue discs bunnings sell are the shit for removing rust and paint of flat stuff, but will heat up your panel up quickly..
As for Rust Kill heavy duty primer, make sure the surface is very clean and you allow 12hours between coats... For some reason that particular primer is very sensitive and fucks up easy... Maybe try a different primer...
I use Rainex rust converter, clean the area very well then prime and paint. The kill rust white top coat is the same colour as a stock white sierra.
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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 Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:38 am |
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I used rainex as well. The places will be thoroughly cleaned with turps and wax n grease remover. Then a coat of the heavy primer. Up here in the sun it'd probably only need a few hours. Not humid at all yet. Give it another good clean and another coat. Then filler to fill the pocks. Sand and clean. Primer. Then paint. Yes?
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boostedbrick

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Joined: Tue Jun 29, 2010 7:44 am Posts: 2003 Location: Brisbane
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Filler should really go onto metal not paint. Depending on how deep the marks are you could use some spray putty, which is really just a thick primer anyway. Or just fill over the primer, and probably not have an issue for quite a few years anyway.
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sogone

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Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2010 11:29 am Posts: 2070 Location: Darwin
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 Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 9:48 am |
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Spray putty. I shall use this. It's my first paint job  .
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