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Author:  Zook_Fan [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:47 pm ]
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I know there are plenty of threads about the engines but on average for you guys that did the 1.6 swaps (either engine) cost? My 1.3 is approaching 250k and still strong for now but i dont know how much longer it will be like this. I want to know if i were to spend money reco and boring out the 1.3 into a performance engine if the costs would be similar to buying, fitting and complaincing a 1.6. Which would go better as well? With the 1.6 did anything have to be upgraded? (brakes, diffs, driveline components)?

Author:  Mike [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:52 pm ]
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i can't remember if i read it here or outers but aparently a worked 1.3 is about as good as a standard 1.6 so the 1.6 would probably be cheaper than working your 1.3

Author:  Scrawny [ Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:59 pm ]
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If I had to do an engine swap it would be to something EFI. Either G13BB or G16

Author:  Zook_Fan [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:10 am ]
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fair enough but i just got the carby done so i might as well use it god knows i would never get $370 for it if i tried to sell it. What sought of cash is involved in working a 1.3L anyone know?

Author:  Scrawny [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:13 am ]
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The skies the limit really. Depends how far you want to go. Probably going to start somewhere around $2000 and work up from there.

Author:  Zook_Fan [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:14 am ]
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and for a complete 1.6L EFI set up?

Author:  Scrawny [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:16 am ]
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Depending on engine cost, something like $1200? I could be way off but should come in way under a worked motor.

Author:  royce [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:17 am ]
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probably alittle more than $2000 once you factor upgrading the fuel system and stuff

youll never get any carb 1.3 to touch an efi 1.6 and rebuilt engines are never as good

Author:  Zook_Fan [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:07 am ]
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you mean $1200 right

Author:  royce [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:14 am ]
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no 2000 like I typed :lol:

youll pay 500 just for pistons for a 1.3, you bore then the sleeves get thinner and go oval even quicker, you wont be able to use your carb anyway

easilly 1500 for a good complete efi frontcut (or read up about what the guys with baleno engines are doing here) plus youll need to upgrade your fuel system to cope with efi so youll need maybe 2 pumps and a surge tank or graft in a jimny tank or something

then you have your adaptor plate as well

but look at the power and torque figures for a 1.3, a carby 1.6 and an efi 1.6, do you think youll get that much torque from any 1.3 combination?

Author:  BlueSuzy [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:16 am ]
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My 1.6efi isnt up there!! So i didnt vote. Do you have something against us 1.6 efi people? :D

Mine was about 2K all up

Depends on how much you can do...
I did all :wink: ...mounts,adaptor,water,wiring,new clutch,belts,seals

Including buying the coily tank and vit pump

I think im lucky...But for some of you guys its going to be expensive..

Author:  royce [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:26 am ]
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BlueSuzy wrote:
My 1.6efi isnt up there!! So i didnt vote. Do you have something against us 1.6 efi people? :D



fixed :wink:

Author:  Zook_Fan [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:28 am ]
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1. royce you edited :)

2. i tried to put up the efi it didnt work

3. yeah it would cost me more coz i probably wouldnt be able to do that work for quite some time yet.

4. i might just try and find an old 1.3l with less k's to start with and then when i finish uni i should be able to do that sought of work

Author:  BlueSuzy [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:32 am ]
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woo! im 20% :lol: Im am a 1 off :D

But baleno has more kw/torque then the kw/torque of the swifty motor.
More of the fwd application only.

Few different mods too...Abit complicated for most ppl, Thats why vitara better option for some :?

Then you have the Baleno 1.3efi
Jimny 1.3efi

Sorry, i am complicating things :oops: :lol:

Author:  Zook_Fan [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 1:50 am ]
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yeah i was wondering if anyone has done a jimny swap becasue i have seen one and they said that is was a straight in fit and didnt anwer any more questions which leads me to believe it wasnt so simple. How do you get your hands on these engines???

Author:  Mike [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:00 am ]
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first thing you need to do is open the bonnet :wink:

Author:  BlueSuzy [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:00 am ]
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Ring some wreckers, Explain what you are doing and hopefully they can help out mtr and wiring etc. My motor + the wiring cost me $1090. All had to do is pick it up. :D

Author:  Zook_Fan [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:12 am ]
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real helpful mike, righto is there anywreckers you know that would have Jimny parts?

Author:  Mike [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:45 am ]
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im not sure what its like up there but down here we have wreckers just dealing in japanese cars they might be able to help you if not maybe a truck and 4x4 wreckers
look up auto parts recyclers in you local phone book there should be someone in there that could help you

Author:  Zook_Fan [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:49 am ]
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there is those sought of wreckers in brissy but up in Rockhampton we got like 1 wrecker and then another 2 within an hours drive and all are very small and never seem to have suzuki stuff anyway but ill ring around

Author:  Mike [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 2:52 am ]
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i was looking at the yellow pages and there is a place in southport is that far?
there was also a place in brisbane specialising in japanese 4wds

Author:  Zook_Fan [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:00 am ]
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this is what it could look like....
http://www.izook.com/features/big/big.htm
check out the engine

Author:  Zook_Fan [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:02 am ]
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southport is south of brissy and yeah there is a few places i would like to go in brissy when time allows i would need about 4 weeks to go down pick up everything i want and have it fitted but then i wouldnt get back because i would have spent all cash on the car no money for fuel

Author:  Mike [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:38 am ]
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there is a place that on the net that sells 1.6 short motors and all you do is bolt on the head off your motor and then put it in

Author:  Zook_Fan [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:45 am ]
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yeah suzi sport but is this a good way to go? what needs to be done any adapting and is this the equivilant of a 1.6 carby?

Author:  Mike [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:50 am ]
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well they sell an adaptor kit too
the head is smaller so i think that means its gonna have a higher compression ratio
i reckon that with a bigger carby would go really nice

Author:  Zook_Fan [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:05 am ]
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would you get away with not getting it complianced or would that just be stupid

Author:  Mike [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:12 am ]
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i don't know you'd probably be better off up where you are because it all seems pretty strict

Author:  Zook_Fan [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:22 am ]
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yeah that is the worst part about it up here no availability and everything has to be done by the books

Author:  Mike [ Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:47 am ]
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we can't get stuff down here but people do dodgy things i've heard of engine mounts made from star pickets :roll:

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