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Author:  got_bar_work [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:49 am ]
Post subject:  Lwb vit brake up grade
I have a lwb 1.6 vitara and I need to upgrade the brakes
I have sloted and vented front rotors
Is there any master and boosters that have a higher pressure that will bolt in with out to much trouble
Will rear disk help much
I'm looking to see if I can get a gvm upgrade so i want the most stopping power that I can get
Author:  Fatzook [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 3:59 am ]
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Fit 2.0L rotors and calipers. You'll need 16 or 17" wheels though.
Author:  skyman [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:01 am ]
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Do you have the same Isuzu rodeo's and Isuzu trooper's we have, over there?

If you do , let me know and I will find the thread that documents the M/C booster swap, it is bolt on and helps heaps.
Author:  303zuke [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:06 am ]
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skyman wrote:
Do you have the same Isuzu rodeo's and Isuzu trooper's we have, over there?

If you do , let me know and I will find the thread that documents the M/C booster swap, it is bolt on and helps heaps.


Yes, we do, but they're called Holden Rodeos (or the new Colorado) or Holden Jackaroos. Of course, they are also RHD, so there may be a difference with the size/layot of the Booster and Master Cylinder.
Author:  skyman [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:10 am ]
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Look into heir booster and M/C Weed over on Zuwharrie bolted one right in place he did a nice write up on it.. I believe the lines/fittings are metric as well.
Author:  buzbox [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:28 am ]
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I've got standard front with BenT's Rear disc kit. It's gooood. Made a massive difference. The only downside is that I didn't get slotted rotors, which I kinda wish I got now.

For the price of new drums and shoes, you may as well get the rear disc conversion.
Author:  got_bar_work [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 4:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Lwb vit brake up grade
I want to see how much the mc and booster do before I go to bigger front brakes as it would mean buying 8 new rims and tires
Author:  Brett [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:16 pm ]
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Are the gv brakes bolt up except the needong bigger rims?
Author:  royce [ Mon Sep 05, 2011 11:49 pm ]
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doesnt matter how much you change what creates the pressure into teh pistons, a given caliper / rotor combo will only provide so much braking effort, I dont think there is any requirement to be able to provide a given amount of braking for a certain amount of pedal pressure
Author:  Brett [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:33 am ]
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So is it a bolt in or are the master cylinders different?
Author:  stocker [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:11 am ]
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One of my mates has just done the Rear disc brake combo upgrade, omfg... its like having a set of twin spot's compared to mine :D
Author:  royce [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:14 am ]
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stocker wrote:
One of my mates has just done the Rear disc brake combo upgrade, omfg... its like having a set of twin spot's compared to mine :D


Why do people think discs offer more outright braking power?
Author:  stocker [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:22 am ]
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we did a test. side by side, same time ( i cheated a little ) and he still pulled up before me... ...Question not a statement, but aren't Disc brakes more efficient at dissipating heat, therefore providing better stopping power ( like i said royce question not a statement, thats just what i was led to believe and whether that was the blind leading the blind i don't know)
Author:  royce [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:29 am ]
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Discs are better at
being simple to build and install
being virtually maintenece free
working when wet
dissapating heat

So all that makes them more reliable in a passenger car, the heat thing is more of an advantage during repated stops rather than single outright

They have a lot less friction area than drums so need to squeeze a lot harder than drums for the same force, when you jsut bolt discs on the back you still have the same input pressure

Anyone who has driven 4 wheel drum brake cars a lot will tell you they pull up well, when they are sdjusted properly and are cool :), which is pretty easy in the back of a Suzuki
Author:  stocker [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:33 am ]
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i see... well i do have well adjusted drum brakes (till it locks up and 3 clicks back ) , new shoes, and i've got brand new cylinders... and mine doesn't pull up as well as the other LWB with disc's? Please explain??? i really wanna know why that is.
Author:  royce [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Lwb vit brake up grade
most of the braking goes on in the front, same pads and rotors? same tyres? same suspension? same tyre pressure? same shock wear?
Author:  stocker [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 6:44 am ]
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well i have all brand new Dobinson Shocks same size tyres, different type.

He has same suspension except still calmini struts. same BL, Same tyre pressure.

I have RDA Slotted Rotors and Bendix 4wd Pads, he has RDA Solid Rotors and Bendix 4wd Pads...
Author:  christover1 [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:08 am ]
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Spring lift can alter how the rear brake bias sensor works.
Adjusting that, or compensating for the height increase,
can make a huge difference to brake performance
Author:  flatcat_auz [ Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:48 am ]
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My 04 GV is running slotted rotors and braided brake lines and the difference is awesome.......cost me a fortune but well worth it :)
Author:  cooo [ Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:06 am ]
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you can still get away with 15" rims with a very slight bit of grindage, im running 15X7 sunnies on mine with 0 offset
Author:  zuk94 [ Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:54 pm ]
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Slotted discs would be a pain to clean if off roading all the time especially if you like mud etc. . Wouldn't they also in those conditions collect stones and gravel in the slotts and wear grooves in you pads . Be good to know from someone whose tried them out.
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