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| Author: | nato78 [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Gti motor |
I've been offered a very low km g13b gti twin cam motor at a good price, only missing dizzy and exhaust manifold. I've read all the pros and cons regarding the use of these motors in a Sierra, but as far as I'm concerned anything will be better than what's in there now. What I want to know is are there any tricks or hidden problems with installing these motors into a Sierra, especially with the efi and electrics? |
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| Author: | jonno_racing [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
what mk is it mate? |
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| Author: | shakes [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
nothing too specific... http://www.auszookers.com/index.php?nam ... hlight=gti |
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| Author: | nato78 [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
jonno_racing wrote: what mk is it mate?
Out of a 97 model swift, only has 51,000 on the clock |
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| Author: | simobimo [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
Make sure you grab the engine bay and underdash looms for it and the wiring will be a piece of piss. You're welcome to look at mine if you get stuck. You'll need the dizzy and exhaust manifold (as a base), so you best get them sorted. Simo |
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| Author: | jonno_racing [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 10:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
its mk2/3 then.. no angle drive for you.. i am currently doing a mk3 conversion for a forum member. when are u planning on installing it? i can come lend a hand mate. |
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| Author: | nato78 [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
If I buy it, I'll get it this wk. Would like to have it in by the wheeny creek trip |
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| Author: | angus350 [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
i have done a fair bit of reading about it because i am going to be doing it to mine soon but why does the angle drive kit not fit for mk2/3? cheers |
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| Author: | stockman [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
nato78 wrote: If I buy it, I'll get it this wk. Would like to have it in by the wheeny creek trip
You coming in the Sierra or Jimny? |
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| Author: | nato78 [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
stockman wrote: nato78 wrote: If I buy it, I'll get it this wk. Would like to have it in by the wheeny creek trip You coming in the Sierra or Jimny? Sierra, don't own a jimny |
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| Author: | stockman [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
nato78 wrote: stockman wrote: nato78 wrote: If I buy it, I'll get it this wk. Would like to have it in by the wheeny creek trip You coming in the Sierra or Jimny? Sierra, don't own a jimny |
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| Author: | cbzook [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
the mk 2/3 dizzy has a crank angle sensor mk 1 does not |
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| Author: | nato78 [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
Don't you swap the dizzy out for a Mazda 323 one anyway? Never mind, misread that, only the cap and rotor |
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| Author: | jonno_racing [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
no u use the cap and a modified rottor button.. i fitted one yesterday... not exactly straight forward and dosent exactly fit. i can come fit, wire etc for you.. i am doing a mk3 atm started lunch time yesterday.. all i have to do is wiring, fit starter, fuel tank back in (swimmer pump) and figure out intake pipeing.. so should be started tomorrow night. however i have worked hard and fast on this one.. i also made a pretty stainless top radiator hose today. etc.. |
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| Author: | nato78 [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
Might give you a buzz tomorrow Phil, once i sort out what I'm gunna do |
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| Author: | jonno_racing [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
yeah sure, i am free next week, i think... i can come down and fit/wire for cash. |
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
you would! |
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| Author: | jonno_racing [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
SierraDan wrote: you would!
its how i am making my living atm.. conversions and making shit. |
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| Author: | nato78 [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
jonno_racing wrote: yeah sure, i am free next week, i think... i can come down and fit/wire for cash.
If I get the motor, I'll definately take you up on that offer |
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| Author: | jonno_racing [ Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
nato78 wrote: jonno_racing wrote: yeah sure, i am free next week, i think... i can come down and fit/wire for cash. If I get the motor, I'll definately take you up on that offer this was my first effort at top cooling hose today 2... i will tig them in future but u get the idea
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| Author: | masterA [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
angus350 wrote: i have done a fair bit of reading about it because i am going to be doing it to mine soon but why does the angle drive kit not fit for mk2/3?
cheers According to Derek from SuziSport....you CAN use the angle drive kit on the MK2/3 engines HOWEVER....you will need to buy a Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/roto and fit that Apparently he has done it quite a few times I will let you know in 2-3 weeks how it goes coz i brought the angle drive and a 92' Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/rotor (just need to get my engine back from the machine shop) |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
masterA wrote: angus350 wrote: i have done a fair bit of reading about it because i am going to be doing it to mine soon but why does the angle drive kit not fit for mk2/3? cheers According to Derek from SuziSport....you CAN use the angle drive kit on the MK2/3 engines HOWEVER....you will need to buy a Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/roto and fit that Apparently he has done it quite a few times I will let you know in 2-3 weeks how it goes coz i brought the angle drive and a 92' Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/rotor (just need to get my engine back from the machine shop) Well that flies in the face of everything Phil preaches. I hope Dereck is right on this one. He definately knows some shit, but sometimes I wonder if he just makes it up |
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| Author: | jimbo_jones [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
masterA wrote: angus350 wrote: i have done a fair bit of reading about it because i am going to be doing it to mine soon but why does the angle drive kit not fit for mk2/3? cheers According to Derek from SuziSport....you CAN use the angle drive kit on the MK2/3 engines HOWEVER....you will need to buy a Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/roto and fit that Apparently he has done it quite a few times I will let you know in 2-3 weeks how it goes coz i brought the angle drive and a 92' Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/rotor (just need to get my engine back from the machine shop) interesting never heard this before let us know how it go's |
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| Author: | masterA [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
Well...if he's telling me porkies he'll be getting his Vitara dizzy back and refunding me my money |
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| Author: | jonno_racing [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 4:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
jimbo_jones wrote: masterA wrote: angus350 wrote: i have done a fair bit of reading about it because i am going to be doing it to mine soon but why does the angle drive kit not fit for mk2/3? cheers According to Derek from SuziSport....you CAN use the angle drive kit on the MK2/3 engines HOWEVER....you will need to buy a Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/roto and fit that Apparently he has done it quite a few times I will let you know in 2-3 weeks how it goes coz i brought the angle drive and a 92' Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/rotor (just need to get my engine back from the machine shop) interesting never heard this before let us know how it go's me 2 cbzook and I were discussing this the other day. very interested however I think the ign curve is different. also finding a g16b dizzy may not be that Cheep. |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
If it des wrk, I have 2 G16B dizzy's I don't need. Both need new caps though... |
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| Author: | JrZook [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 5:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
jonno_racing wrote: jimbo_jones wrote: masterA wrote: angus350 wrote: i have done a fair bit of reading about it because i am going to be doing it to mine soon but why does the angle drive kit not fit for mk2/3? cheers According to Derek from SuziSport....you CAN use the angle drive kit on the MK2/3 engines HOWEVER....you will need to buy a Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/roto and fit that Apparently he has done it quite a few times I will let you know in 2-3 weeks how it goes coz i brought the angle drive and a 92' Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/rotor (just need to get my engine back from the machine shop) interesting never heard this before let us know how it go's me 2 cbzook and I were discussing this the other day. very interested however I think the ign curve is different. also finding a g16b dizzy may not be that Cheep. G16b dizzy's don't have an advance plate. All they have is a fixed timing pick-up. Mk2/3 must use the ECU to control the timing curve. |
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| Author: | jonno_racing [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
JrZook wrote: jonno_racing wrote: jimbo_jones wrote: masterA wrote: angus350 wrote: i have done a fair bit of reading about it because i am going to be doing it to mine soon but why does the angle drive kit not fit for mk2/3? cheers According to Derek from SuziSport....you CAN use the angle drive kit on the MK2/3 engines HOWEVER....you will need to buy a Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/roto and fit that Apparently he has done it quite a few times I will let you know in 2-3 weeks how it goes coz i brought the angle drive and a 92' Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/rotor (just need to get my engine back from the machine shop) interesting never heard this before let us know how it go's me 2 cbzook and I were discussing this the other day. very interested however I think the ign curve is different. also finding a g16b dizzy may not be that Cheep. G16b dizzy's don't have an advance plate. All they have is a fixed timing pick-up. Mk2/3 must use the ECU to control the timing curve. so even if it did run it wouldn't be right |
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| Author: | JrZook [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
jonno_racing wrote: JrZook wrote: jonno_racing wrote: jimbo_jones wrote: masterA wrote: angus350 wrote: i have done a fair bit of reading about it because i am going to be doing it to mine soon but why does the angle drive kit not fit for mk2/3? cheers According to Derek from SuziSport....you CAN use the angle drive kit on the MK2/3 engines HOWEVER....you will need to buy a Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/roto and fit that Apparently he has done it quite a few times I will let you know in 2-3 weeks how it goes coz i brought the angle drive and a 92' Vitara EFI dizzy/cap/rotor (just need to get my engine back from the machine shop) interesting never heard this before let us know how it go's me 2 cbzook and I were discussing this the other day. very interested however I think the ign curve is different. also finding a g16b dizzy may not be that Cheep. G16b dizzy's don't have an advance plate. All they have is a fixed timing pick-up. Mk2/3 must use the ECU to control the timing curve. so even if it did run it wouldn't be right Huh? MK2/3 use the ECU to control timing, they have a fixed pickup in the dizzy exactly like the G16B. The early MK1 uses the dizzy to control the ignition timing and the ECU is fuel only. Yea? |
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| Author: | jonno_racing [ Wed Sep 07, 2011 6:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Gti motor |
sorry read that wrong. yeah spot on. I might try get a g16b dizzy fab up an adapter and give it a run on the one I am doing atm. Pete could I loan/buy one of those dizzys? |
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