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Sutho

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Joined: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 735 Location: Scenic Rim, Qld
Vehicle: 1995 SWB Sierra TinTop
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 Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:32 am |
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hey guys just found this tyre on ebay
its a exact replica of a simex centrepede and there only $189.00 each haha not like $350.00 haha
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Insa-Turbo-S ... 27bdb2bdd4
anyone heard about these tyres???
im going to buy 4 in the next couple months and there only $100 delivered to brisbane from melbourne 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:37 am |
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yep, i have them in a 235/75r15 & they're are taller than my 31" MTR's
235/75r15's v 31/10.5r15
they are a remold tyre... eg retread, they work well off road, bloody noisy on road & they're heavy as hell, as a play only tyre they're perfect.
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Sutho

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Joined: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 735 Location: Scenic Rim, Qld
Vehicle: 1995 SWB Sierra TinTop
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 Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:38 am |
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are they soft???? well kinda soft?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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tread seems quite sticky & side walls seem pretty flexy.
Front right at basically 0psi

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Sutho

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Joined: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 735 Location: Scenic Rim, Qld
Vehicle: 1995 SWB Sierra TinTop
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 Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:49 am |
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im going to buy them as a comp tyre so they should go pretty well haha run like 5psi all day on a suzi with a 6 inch rim, shouldnt ever pop a bead, unless something bad happens haha
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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I'll consider these when my present tyres wear out.
Was very happy with my Mongrels,
these should be just as good.
Softness of sidewall usually is good,
because they 2nd hand carcass broken in by some heavy 4wd junk. 
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Sutho

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Joined: Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 735 Location: Scenic Rim, Qld
Vehicle: 1995 SWB Sierra TinTop
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 Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:01 pm |
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christover1 wrote: I'll consider these when my present tyres wear out. Was very happy with my Mongrels, these should be just as good. Softness of sidewall usually is good, because they 2nd hand carcass broken in by some heavy 4wd junk. 
so a coiled sierra? haha 
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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235/85 16's is perfect for a zook,
but I'd have to buy rims as well.
So a tall 235 on my 15's sounds like my choice.
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dave91
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:37 pm Posts: 411 Location: Brisbane
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Sutho wrote: hey guys just found this tyre on ebay its a exact replica of a simex centrepede and there only $189.00 each haha not like $350.00 haha http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Insa-Turbo-S ... 27bdb2bdd4 anyone heard about these tyres??? im going to buy 4 in the next couple months and there only $100 delivered to brisbane from melbourne 
Can they be used on road or are they comp only?
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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they are a street legal tyre, i did a 600km round trip on them with a heap of highway driving... my stereo was about up louder by about 5 or 6 & it doesn't even come close to drowning out the noise. it's like you are being chased by a hover craft & my fuel economy blew out wickedly
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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christover1 wrote: 235/85 16's is perfect for a zook, but I'd have to buy rims as well. So a tall 235 on my 15's sounds like my choice.
x2 that's the size I want.
Pity 235s don't come in really high profiles.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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Just remember, the size they state is the carcass size then they have an inch or more of tread wrapped over the top.
Thats why the 235's Gus got off me are 31's when usually they should be a 29".
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luke3411

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Joined: Mon Aug 29, 2011 3:25 pm Posts: 183 Location: Katherine
Vehicle: Hard Top Fusty Ducker Vitara
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 Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:23 pm |
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So being such a heavier tyre blows out the fuel milage but by how much?
Tyres look really awesome with a heap of bite and I actually looked into these tyres not long ago. Only thing is that say the sahara's are only a difference of about $20 to buy the Maxiss bighorns brand new off ebay.
I'm still considering these tyres as an option though as I'm sure the performance will be huge.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:29 pm |
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The weight and the added rolling resistance would be it @ 110kph it was something like 4l per 100km worse than my normal mud tyres.
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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 Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:35 pm |
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I can't see the tyre weight adding to an increased fuel milage, rather, the aggressive tread pattern.
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alien
Joined: Wed Mar 24, 2010 10:30 pm Posts: 16343 Location: Perth
Vehicle: '92 Sierra, 1.6efi, SPOA, 31s.
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dont forget cos of the increase in size the odometer is way out as well (unless you measured speed and mileage by gps?)
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sicktara
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:10 am Posts: 58 Location: SA
Vehicle: 89 vitara
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 Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:17 am |
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are they cheap and crappy atari?
i would use them for going away, but the noise on the road would be horrible
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:24 am |
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sicktara wrote: are they cheap and crappy atari? i would use them for going away, but the noise on the road would be horrible my tyre guy way quite impressed with the quality of them for a retread, they are a full remold rather than a recap. eg the new rubber goes from bead to bead. alien wrote: dont forget cos of the increase in size the odometer is way out as well (unless you measured speed and mileage by gps?)
alien when fitted there is very little difference in size & surely not enough difference to blow it out by 4L/100kms 
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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atari4x4 wrote: sicktara wrote: are they cheap and crappy atari? i would use them for going away, but the noise on the road would be horrible my tyre guy way quite impressed with the quality of them for a retread, they are a full remold rather than a recap. eg the new rubber goes from bead to bead.alien wrote: dont forget cos of the increase in size the odometer is way out as well (unless you measured speed and mileage by gps?) alien when fitted there is very little difference in size & surely not enough difference to blow it out by 4L/100kms 
Made in the UK, the standard's there make what we do here look like dark age's....
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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SuziBlu wrote: I can't see the tyre weight adding to an increased fuel milage, rather, the aggressive tread pattern.
Your motor has to work ALOT harder to get that extra weight moving.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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Actually its the tread design that causes the huge increase in fuel use. I experimented with my sierra when i got the silverstone xtremes. same size AT was 5ltr better than the xtremes per 100km's. The big lugs created more air drag and at hwy speeds created more resistance and that needed more throttle to keep speeds.
Was almost no difference around town but when you had to go over 80km/h it really sucked.
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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shakes wrote: SuziBlu wrote: I can't see the tyre weight adding to an increased fuel milage, rather, the aggressive tread pattern. Your motor has to work ALOT harder to get that extra weight moving.
Shakes, not disbelieving you, but I look at it this way, even if the tyre was double in weight to "normal" tyres, over all the weight increase is very insignificant.
Add two passengers and you have far more weight, but that will not reduce fuel consumption by 40% or so.
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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With those tyres on my vit, i used half a tank more fuel on trip up to morgan than i did with my mtr's on on the same trip 
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jimbo_jones

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Joined: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4361 Location: gong
Vehicle: 2015 Jimny, LJ50, Maruti
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 Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:54 am |
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:56 am |
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i can say that they weigh a metric truckload more than my 31's.
what ever it is, it's almost like driving around with the handbrake on a few clicks, dip the clutch in & it doesn't coast to a stop, it rolls for a bit then stops.
as B4T said around town they were no worse in the way of fuel usage, but on the open road it's pretty bad.
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shakes
Joined: Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 4895 Location: Northcote
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SuziBlu wrote: shakes wrote: SuziBlu wrote: I can't see the tyre weight adding to an increased fuel milage, rather, the aggressive tread pattern. Your motor has to work ALOT harder to get that extra weight moving. Shakes, not disbelieving you, but I look at it this way, even if the tyre was double in weight to "normal" tyres, over all the weight increase is very insignificant. Add two passengers and you have far more weight, but that will not reduce fuel consumption by 40% or so.
Your motor isn't trying to turn the passengers end over end
b4t has proven me wrong though
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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shakes wrote: SuziBlu wrote: I can't see the tyre weight adding to an increased fuel milage, rather, the aggressive tread pattern. Your motor has to work ALOT harder to get that extra weight moving.
Tread pattern, not weight.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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 Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:15 am |
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as shakes said, rotation mass is a big factor.
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