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dave91
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:37 pm Posts: 411 Location: Brisbane
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Guys should I get a SWB or a LWB Vit? I like the idea of 4 doors as I've only ever had 2d cars. How do they go off road, which is better? I'll be buying one as soon as I can sell my Jimny so hopefully within the month. Also may be leaning instead towards getting a 180sx, so convince me!
Dave
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Chop

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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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 Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:23 pm |
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I'd say LWB, the room is always better to have. If you think you wont need it, you will one day and regret not having it when ya want it. 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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 Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:27 pm |
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LWB better for climbing.
LWB better handling IMHO.
LWB better for seating more than 2 people,
and/or camping gear.
SWB better ramp over, and better power to weight ratio.
SWB better for discouraging freeloading passengers
I'm biased to LWB's
[flash width=480 height=385]http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/v/luCFPmCkEHE.swf[/flash]
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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SWB, nothing better than whipping a U-Turn at the end of the little track that ran off the other little track when the LWB's are doing 16 point U-Turns.
i want a MWB Vitara... 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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atari4x4 wrote: SWB, nothing better than whipping a U-Turn at the end of the little track that ran off the other little track when the LWB's are doing 16 point U-Turns. i want a MWB Vitara... 
Or a better hand brake, and steel nerves, for U turns 
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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Decide what you want to do first, go fast or slow then go from there. A vitara and a 180sx are from the opposite end of the motorsport spectrum.
besides that, I'm with Chris on all points except for the freeloader passangers, I have my rear seats taken out so it's just a 2 seater.
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alexvitara

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Joined: Sat Mar 26, 2011 8:45 am Posts: 1602 Location: Gold Coast
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SWB look cooler 
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dave91
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:37 pm Posts: 411 Location: Brisbane
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I used to have an integra and have bought a jimny (to sell). The jimny is freaking dangerous in the wet and wind and has no power at all! It's unbelievable! That's why I want a 180. But I really wanna go camping and 4x4ing, beach etc. so I'll go for the vit. The 180 will have to wait until I have a million dollars to rego 2 cars hahah. My mate said that the difference is about 200 - 300mm from swb to lwb. Is that right? And what difference does it make (other than climbing easier)
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Wheelbase
2-door: 86.6 in (2,200 mm)
4-door: 97.6 in (2,479 mm)
Length
2-door: 143.7 in (3,650 mm)
4-door: 158.7 in (4,031 mm)
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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My back, neck and shoulders like the 4 doors,
no reaching into the back to grab stuff, just open the door.
Thou I guess its an easy reach in a SWB thru back door?
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banga
Joined: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 668 Location: sunshine coast
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there is only like 200 to 300 mm of space in the back of a swb you open the back door and the seats are there. if you thought the jimny was dangerous you might be better with a lwb bit more stable
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dave91
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:37 pm Posts: 411 Location: Brisbane
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Ah ok, that video was great (Now that I can actually watch it.. stupid Iphone..) Could you guys post up some pics or videos of your vits at all? I think maybe the lwb would be better, having watched that video, it still looks quite small which is good. My integra basically turned into my little mobile room because I had so much shit in there, and I've found that the Jimny is too small to be a portable room hahah
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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Go the LWB. If it weren't for the SV LWB having the H20a instead of teh J20a, I would have bought one instead of my SWB. 
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buzbox
Joined: Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 3600 Location: Wollongong NSW
Vehicle: LWB Sierra & XL7
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Have a look at a few of our build threads in the rigs section. You will get some inspiration on what you could do with yours.
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dave91
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:37 pm Posts: 411 Location: Brisbane
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What's the difference between H20a and J20a?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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dave91 wrote: What's the difference between H20a and J20a?
2 cylinders.
H20 is a V6.
J20 is a 4. For all insensive purposes they have the same power.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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H20a is a 2.0l V6, the J20a is a 2.0l 4cyl, both have very similar outputs in the way of torque & power
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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Atari = 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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 same post times... i'm actually working 
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sideways

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Joined: Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:53 pm Posts: 5936 Location: Northcliffe, W.A.
Vehicle: LJs, Sierra, Jimny, Swift.
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atari4x4 wrote: Wheelbase 2-door: 86.6 in (2,200 mm) 4-door: 97.6 in (2,479 mm)
Length 2-door: 143.7 in (3,650 mm) 4-door: 158.7 in (4,031 mm)
Those are near dead on the same specs as my LWB LJ!
IMO go SWB, SWB is awesome.
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dave91
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:37 pm Posts: 411 Location: Brisbane
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Fatzook wrote: Atari = 
Bahahah epic
So are the GV's a lot worse than the straight JLX vit's?
Any year in particular that the J20a begun production?
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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GV's are better IMO. More plastic, but a nicer vehicle. And they all come with a 2.5L V6 or bigger
J20 started in the SV420 model vits around 96-97 I believe
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dave91
Joined: Sun Mar 27, 2011 11:37 pm Posts: 411 Location: Brisbane
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Does anyone know what the fuel consumption is like from h20 to j20?
So would a GV be the better option? I always though that they were more of a mum's car, like a rav4 I suppose.
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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dave91 wrote: Does anyone know what the fuel consumption is like from h20 to j20? So would a GV be the better option? I always though that they were more of a mum's car, like a rav4 I suppose.
Dave you really need to decide what you want from your car. In the space of 6 weeks you have worked your way through almost all of suzuki's 4x4 line up. They DON'T all do the same things well.
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
Vehicle: Pajero 91 NH 3.0 SWB
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steak_knife

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Joined: Fri May 22, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 21335 Location: Smart Ass Island
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Fatzook wrote: GV's are better IMO. More plastic, but a nicer vehicle. And they all come with a 2.5L V6 or bigger J20 started in the SV420 model vits around 96-97 I believe
What about the 1.6 GV's???
Or the j20 GV's?? 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Fatzook =

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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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steak_knife wrote: Fatzook wrote: GV's are better IMO. More plastic, but a nicer vehicle. And they all come with a 2.5L V6 or bigger J20 started in the SV420 model vits around 96-97 I believe What about the 1.6 GV's??? Or the j20 GV's?? 
In a LWB? 
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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they made J20a LWB GV's
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Fatzook

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Joined: Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14977 Location: The Hills
Vehicle: Vitara, NGV
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atari4x4 wrote: they made J20a LWB GV's
Who is they?
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