[koozers]

any tricks to getting the axle back in ???

King pin bearings done.... should be the easy bit now (puttin it all back together) but cant get the axle back in?????
short side pops straight in......... after fickin with the longside for 2hrs it still wont go in

HELP

[atari4x4]

silly question time, have you got them going in on the correct side?

LHS is the long one from memory

[alien]

have you tried a block of wood and a hit of a hammer?

[skyman]

Make sure the housing is straight. Keep he diff/third member bolts loose until axles are installed.

Turn the knuckle as you are sliding the half shaft in.

I usually center the knuckle, let the stub shaft hang down, and then use the stub for leverage to lift the longer part of the axle up a bit.

Best advice, walk away and hit it tomorrow. I have messed with one for 2 hours straight, came back in the morning and the first try was a go.

[koozers]

skyman wrote:

Make sure the housing is straight. Keep he diff/third member bolts loose until axles are installed.

Turn the knuckle as you are sliding the half shaft in.

I usually center the knuckle, let the stub shaft hang down, and then use the stub for leverage to lift the longer part of the axle up a bit.

Best advice, walk away and hit it tomorrow. I have messed with one for 2 hours straight, came back in the morning and the first try was a go.

thankyou
...my back is killing me

will loosen third member bolts tomorrow and try again ( i thought i was on the easy bit

[koozers]

alien wrote:

have you tried a block of wood and a hit of a hammer?

iv tried
brooksy tried
i tried again ....
some more of brooksy..me him me..him . me .....
fuck it smoko
me
him ...me .........fuck it... beer time...
me ... more beer ....me beer me beer..... fuck it smoko
brooksy ............beer.....more beer ....smoko...some beer fuck it smoko

[Shansh]

koozers wrote:

alien wrote:

have you tried a block of wood and a hit of a hammer?

iv tried
brooksy tried
i tried again ....
some more of brooksy..me him me..him . me .....
fuck it smoko
me
him ...me .........fuck it... beer time...
me ... more beer ....me beer me beer..... fuck it smoko
brooksy ............beer.....more beer ....smoko...some beer fuck it smoko

sorry mate but thats funny as, give it some hell in the morning you will prob get it first go, always the way

[Damo]

Put a NT one in, they go in a piece of piss

[mnemonix]

it's just the way you have to load up the long side axle to get it to slot into the centre.
gotta push down on the cv to lift the axle end up into the centre. it's a bit of a fiddle, but not rocket science.

[Ridge]

push the axle in and have the diff centre end pointing slightly up when you feel it hit the 3rd member, twist and push it in. it is the same thing you would do for the rear axles. When you do it once, it is easy .....

[sogone]

I usually put a bit of good quality lube on the spline when I put mine back together. Same shit I used to pack my bearings and the like. Never spent more then 5 seconds locating and sliding a axel home.

[ROAR99]

take out top king pin,, loosen bottom one,, this allows the whole nuckle to move a bit...
slide axle in,,

then pull like fuck and slide top king pin back in ..
done both my axles (bearing repack)yesterday took about an hour each side
on w/t. had the same problem.

[ROAR99]

alien wrote:

have you tried a block of wood and a hit of a hammer?

with a sugestion like that on axle splines??
someone should take a block of wood to your head!!!

[Gwagensteve]

You won't hurt axle splines with a block of wood and tap with a hammer. It shouldn't be necessary though. Neither is loosening 3rd member bolts or loosening the kingpins.

I've found pushing down on the CV and sometimes a little turn will have it pop straight in.

Doubletoughs are much harder though, as the knuckle has to come off and they are still a really tight fit.

Steve.

[ROAR99]

Gwagensteve wrote:

You won't hurt axle splines with a block of wood and tap with a hammer. It shouldn't be necessary though. Neither is loosening 3rd member bolts or loosening the kingpins.

I've found pushing down on the CV and sometimes a little turn will have it pop straight in.

Doubletoughs are much harder though, as the knuckle has to come off and they are still a really tight fit.

Steve.

sounds like hes allready got the king pins in,, so im guessing problem is the cv hits and wont go in,,twice iv done mine same problem and each time i took out the top king pin and axle slid straite in.

[koozers]

All sorted aaaawwwwww yeeeeaaaahhhh.... loosened king pin bolts... gave the housing a little movement... 2 and a half mins later in pops axel...

oh.. an bangin on the end wid a block of wood... not a good idea had to file the burrs of the splines befor i could get the hubby bit back on

but ..its all done ready for the big trip on weekend

anyone know of a south of the river (perth) mechanic who does a good job putting auto lockers in??/

[Ben_Sierra]

koozers wrote:

All sorted aaaawwwwww yeeeeaaaahhhh.... loosened king pin bolts... gave the housing a little movement... 2 and a half mins later in pops axel...

oh.. an bangin on the end wid a block of wood... not a good idea had to file the burrs of the splines befor i could get the hubby bit back on

but ..its all done ready for the big trip on weekend

anyone know of a south of the river (perth) mechanic who does a good job putting auto lockers in??/

A mate of mine just had his rear diff rebuilt and airlocker installed at Perth Gearbox in Belmont. He reckons they were great and really cheap.

[joeblow]

Leaving the kingpins loose is always a good idea. The less you have to push, lever and piss fart around getting an axle in will usualy be better on the axle seal.

[sogone]

And more time for beers.

[bakerboy]

Wa diff in O'connor

$260

[ROAR99]

koozers wrote:

All sorted aaaawwwwww yeeeeaaaahhhh.... loosened king pin bolts... gave the housing a little movement... 2 and a half mins later in pops axel...

oh.. an bangin on the end wid a block of wood... not a good idea had to file the burrs of the splines befor i could get the hubby bit back on

but ..its all done ready for the big trip on weekend

anyone know of a south of the river (perth) mechanic who does a good job putting auto lockers in??/

glad to help
as i said the 2 IDIOTS who sugested hit it with a wood block & hammer
should stick to driving not fixing..

[Teracis]

If you had the knuckle off why not just put the axle back in before putting the knuckle back on?

I am guessing you didn't have the whole knuckle off though so that would answer my question.

[koozers]

bakerboy wrote:

Wa diff in O'connor

$260

you and my dads mechanic suggested these guys so think il giv em a call thankyou

[atari4x4]

ROAR99 wrote:

alien wrote:

have you tried a block of wood and a hit of a hammer?

with a sugestion like that on axle splines??
someone should take a block of wood to your head!!!

only to listen to Alien's advice when he's talking about recipes & cake baking tech.

[alien]

[atari4x4]

at least you sound like you know what you're doing when in the kitchen

monkey wrote:

skyman wrote:

I had to use a very large breaker bar( 4 foot long i think?) and heat from a propane torch. Heat will expand the nut, and hopefully break any corrosion or thread locker that may have been used by the previous installer.

Cheers, Skyman!!!

I will try the flat bar idea when my mate get's here to help me. How much heat did you put onto the nut?

alien wrote:

usually the nut needs to glow red when you're using this method =)

[alien]

ive only seen it done twice - but the heating of the nut thing was only successful once it got to a dark red colour.

but you're right, im better at slinging a knife in the kitchen than a spanner in a workshop =)

[joe5701]

alien wrote:

have you tried a block of wood and a hit of a hammer?

could of been worse, at least you told him to use a block of wood.
















that way he'll only fuck one end

[alien]

yeah but you cant see the other end so it doesnt get visibly damaged =P

[stocker]

alien wrote:

visibly damaged =P

Is there any other kind???