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| Author: | Robbo86 [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
Hey everyone. I got a set of larger tires a while ago and its finally annoyed me enough to fix how far out the speedo is. The tires are 235/75 15's. The speedo is slow by about 6 at 60km/h and about 10 at 100km/h and the trip meter is close to 35km under by the time my tank is empty according to the gps. I dont really want to pay the hundreds that instrument shops charge and was wondering how hard it is as a DIY and what you need in terms of gear size. Any help would be very appreciated. Thanks |
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| Author: | TZAR [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
liquid paper on the plastic in front of the speedo |
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| Author: | Robbo86 [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 12:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
ive considered just doing that before haha |
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| Author: | 607CHA [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 1:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
TZAR wrote: liquid paper on the plastic in front of the speedo
x2 it's the easiest way. Or just learn what rev's you do it each speed intival. |
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| Author: | drover027 [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 3:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
The instrument guys charge about the same as a speeding fine, but they dont take points away. |
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| Author: | Lil_Rat [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
607CHA wrote: TZAR wrote: liquid paper on the plastic in front of the speedo x2 it's the easiest way. Or just learn what rev's you do it each speed intival. Wind, hills, type of road, what gear. All things that would affect that idea. As its down by roughly 10% it would be easy just to add on the defficiency. Ie for 60kmh go 66kmh on the speedo or for 100kmh go 110kmh on the speedo IMO. |
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| Author: | SSSIERA [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 4:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
i should be putting my 30s on on wednesday! im still not sure what im going to do about this problem but the top to options on my list are! option one is this permanantly mounted were the clock and storage hole used to be http://dicksmith.com.au/product/D4454/n ... in-car-gps the nav man one makes a lil noise when u hit the speed limit aswell. and tell u were red light cameras are (and saftey cams) and option two is this mounted in that little space on the right hand side between the steering wheel and the drivers side window! http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Acewell-2853 ... 45f7345ff3 they both temporary till i finish setting my nav/audio system up! |
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| Author: | 31zook [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 5:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
A 1L speedo drive gear will reset it back to stock. Not the whole tcase, just the drive gear. |
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| Author: | royce [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
Lil_Rat wrote: Wind, hills, type of road, what gear. All things that would affect that idea. only gear will have any effect there I know my speedo is 8% out, I just guess its not that hard |
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| Author: | royce [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
31zook wrote: A 1L speedo drive gear will reset it back to stock. Not the whole tcase, just the drive gear.
You sure? I think that will make it worse |
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| Author: | Robbo86 [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
i have a gps at the moment to say speed its more that my trip meter is so far out combining larger tires and long range tank. one place quoted $660 just for the new speedo gear box, stuff that. i would like to know where you could get a speedo gearbox kit and do it yourself |
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| Author: | Robbo86 [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
would getting the 1L speedo gear work? |
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| Author: | royce [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
marks adaptors do a corrector kit, $175 |
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| Author: | Robbo86 [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
thanks for the suggestions "SSSIERA", i do like that digital speedo thats pretty cool |
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| Author: | Robbo86 [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
ok cool. where are marks adaptors, is there a website? |
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| Author: | Daves4wd [ Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
They have a Facebook page if you have it |
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| Author: | 303zuke [ Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
Robbo86 wrote: where are marks adaptors, is there a website?
http://www.marks4wd.com/products/products_index.htm |
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| Author: | shep [ Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
i am making a few speedo faces that ya can print out and stick over the old speedo face. like this but for real. http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... ic&t=26058 |
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| Author: | Robbo86 [ Sun Oct 09, 2011 9:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
ok cool cheers for the suggestions |
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| Author: | missmyljdaze [ Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
dunno if this is much help- years ago we used to swap tyres/ diffs etc in our pommy fords and it really messed up the speedo. we would pull out the speedo drive cog from the gearbox and just swap it for another one with less/ more teeth until we found the right one. (different coloured nylon cogs for different numbers of teeth) my capri was around a 2 minute job to change the cog. escort, capri, cortina, consul, transit, zephyr, zodiac all were interchangable with cogs- and many other cars as well. no GPS then- you either drove alongside your mates, asked a copper with a radar gun, or used the RAC rolling road or a dyno. It might be possible that the speedo drive cog from another vehicle will fix your problem. someone out there in Auszookland might have a pile of broken gearboxes(or transfercases) that the cogs can be salvaged from- or zookers can post if they have any they salvage for use by other members (if it is feasable or possible to swap cogs in zooks? ) |
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| Author: | Robbo86 [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 4:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
that sounds like a plausible idea. So if i try and follow my speedo cable down to my gear box or transfer case it should be attached to a small plastic gear that i can replace yeah? |
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| Author: | missmyljdaze [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 5:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
thats pretty much how it was for us, on pommy fords you just disconnected the cable from the gearbox (IIRC 1 bolt holding a forked clamp), and then just pulled the cog out of the gearbox with a pair of pliers- then pushing the replacement cog in its place (usually having to replace the old decrepit dodgy "O" ring) Then refitting the cable and its clamp and bolt. many of the ford gearboxes of that era were borg-warner, and some parts were also similar from other car manufacturers. with a bit of luck, Suzuki might have followed the same principal. |
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| Author: | ikuzus [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
OMFG! You should have seen my dad's face when I asked him if my bigger tyres might explain my speeding tickets! |
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| Author: | JrZook [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 7:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
With those figures, simple maths tells us that you are 10% out and thus need a 10% overdrive to the speedo unit. This could be achieved with a 11/10T gear set for example. |
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| Author: | Robbo86 [ Tue Oct 11, 2011 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
awesome thanks a lot, will definately look into the speedo gear and whether another one of a better ratio will suit |
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| Author: | Reubs [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 1:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
Hey Robbo86, If you aren't interested too much in the odometer accuracy:- I am currently in the process of designing some new speedo faces for one of the N Brisbane Zook club members - the idea being you take the cluster apart (really simple) and replace the old faces with a new one with a new scale. I intend to do some dual-scale designs also. I am working on a 1L design at the moment with the prototype waiting to be made. I intend to make some NT/WT ones also, but this will take a few weeks to experiment with the material and getting the transparency right. Read more here: http://nbs4x4club.com/forum/index.php?topic=14960.0 |
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| Author: | FHA57 [ Wed Oct 12, 2011 2:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
does anyone on here run the marks adaptors correction unit? |
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| Author: | Robbo86 [ Thu Oct 13, 2011 8:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Adjusting speed/odometer/trip meter for larger tires |
ok cool thanks reubs, yeah that seems like a good idea. Definately keep me informed cheers mate |
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