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Author:  monley [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:26 am ]
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:helloo: Guy's

Pulled my brake drums of today cus there were some strange noises coming from them. When you turn the axle with the drum on...it make's a grinding noise....take the drum off...no noise :?

Any way i had a look at the pad's

This is what they looked liked:

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There is plenty of meat left on the bottom of the shoe (as you can see in the pics) but up the top is was worn away to nothing :?

So what i would like know

A) Would the en-even where cause the noise with the drums on?

B) Am i better of getting new shoe's from repco or get Suzuki one's?

C) Why has this happened?

Any help would be very much appreciated as the noise is getting worse by the day :cry: .

Cheer's

Andrew
Author:  zooky08 [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:37 am ]
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Your the second person to have this problem.
I have it to. Ive traced it down to the diff center I'm pretty sure.
I have taken one side of the acle out and it still making grinding noise.
Author:  monley [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:38 am ]
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zooky08 wrote:
Your the second person to have this problem.
I have it to. Ive traced it down to the diff center I'm pretty sure.
I have taken one side of the acle out and it still making grinding noise.


Dose your's only make noise when the drum's are on tho?
Author:  jimny_timmy [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:44 am ]
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Just throwing it out there... But the hubs aren't oval shaped a little are they? Would make sense as to why they've worn uneven?
Author:  zooky08 [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:44 am ]
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Both on and off
Author:  monley [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:47 am ]
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Mine only make the noise with the drum's on...so it's got to be some thing to do with the break's....wonder if they need baking of a bit....i think they may just be rubbing?

Jimny_timmy: Doubt it...only done 16,000km's on them
Author:  christover1 [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:48 am ]
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When I priced new drums, shoes and cylinders for the Vit,
BenT's rear disc conversion was cheaper.

Fit discs, all brake probs are gone
Author:  christover1 [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:51 am ]
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wheel cylinder pushes out both ways, probably seized on one side
Author:  jimny_timmy [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:52 am ]
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monkey wrote:
Mine only make the noise with the drum's on...so it's got to be some thing to do with the break's....wonder if they need baking of a bit....i think they may just be rubbing?

Jimny_timmy: Doubt it...only done 16,000km's on them


It is you drivin though mr I bend diffs :lol:
Author:  monley [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:53 am ]
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jimny_timmy wrote:
monkey wrote:
Mine only make the noise with the drum's on...so it's got to be some thing to do with the break's....wonder if they need baking of a bit....i think they may just be rubbing?

Jimny_timmy: Doubt it...only done 16,000km's on them


It is you drivin though mr I bend diffs :lol:


It's only started doing it right before i braced my rear diff....
Author:  monley [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 9:54 am ]
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christover1 wrote:
When I priced new drums, shoes and cylinders for the Vit,
BenT's rear disc conversion was cheaper.

Fit discs, all brake probs are gone



http://www.zanfi.it/modules.php?name=ca ... cts_id=983 :helloo:

All i need to do then is source some sierra front disk's 8)
Author:  christover1 [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:01 am ]
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monkey wrote:
christover1 wrote:
When I priced new drums, shoes and cylinders for the Vit,
BenT's rear disc conversion was cheaper.

Fit discs, all brake probs are gone



http://www.zanfi.it/modules.php?name=ca ... cts_id=983 :helloo:

All i need to do then is source some sierra front disk's 8)


I bought brand new sierra discs in local brake place,
was only $80 a pair, cheaper than ebay.
Calipers may be harder?
Author:  monley [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:03 am ]
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christover1 wrote:
monkey wrote:
christover1 wrote:
When I priced new drums, shoes and cylinders for the Vit,
BenT's rear disc conversion was cheaper.

Fit discs, all brake probs are gone



http://www.zanfi.it/modules.php?name=ca ... cts_id=983 :helloo:

All i need to do then is source some sierra front disk's 8)


I bought brand new sierra discs in local brake place,
was only $80 a pair, cheaper than ebay.
Calipers may be harder?



mhh...forgot about them :lol:

What did you do for a hand break?

Caliper's wonder if i would use sierra caliper's to? :?
Author:  christover1 [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:10 am ]
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I dunno, can't read Italian,

BenT's kit includes a hand brake cable modifying bracket, and the calipers have handbrake on them.
Author:  atari4x4 [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:13 am ]
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looks like you have a leaky axle seal as well. :wink:
Author:  royce [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:16 am ]
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whats the fluid?

they wear like that cause the drum is a different diameter to the shoe, its normal

the noise is also normal
Author:  monley [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:35 am ]
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The fluid is degreaser cus there was mud and shit in there.

The noise is not normal tho....it's really loud when you turn a corner or change lane...but in a straight line there is no noise....that's got me thinking it's a wheel bearing maybe? :?

christover1: Dose the BenT kit fit the jimny?
Author:  christover1 [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:43 am ]
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If it gets worse when cornering, a wheel bearing is likely cause.

I don't know if BenT does a Jimny kit, or wether it fits Jimnys.

If enough people wanted one, I'm sure he could crank some out
Author:  monley [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:46 am ]
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christover1 wrote:
If it gets worse when cornering, a wheel bearing is likely cause.

I don't know if BenT does a Jimny kit, or wether it fits Jimnys.

If enough people wanted one, I'm sure he could crank some out


Wonder if the sierra kit would fit cus they are the same diff, just wider right?

Any one confirm that?
Author:  christover1 [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:50 am ]
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monkey wrote:
christover1 wrote:
If it gets worse when cornering, a wheel bearing is likely cause.

I don't know if BenT does a Jimny kit, or wether it fits Jimnys.

If enough people wanted one, I'm sure he could crank some out


Wonder if the sierra kit would fit cus they are the same diff, just wider right?

Any one confirm that?


Somebody with a disc rear sierra could come round so you can measure, if there is anyone.
My Sierra disc conversion was made by a mate,
with Angle grinders 4"and 9" and hole saws, but he very clever.
Author:  BJPK [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 10:57 am ]
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they will always wear like that,there is generally a leading side that will wear fist, when you fit em up make sure the leading and following shoe are fitted the right way. mud and shit wears shoes out pretty quick :lol:
Author:  alien [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:18 pm ]
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this is the reason im going rear disc on mine... drums are just a pain in the ass. i have noticed though that since avoiding mud at all costs my brakes are lasting longer and i reckon working twice as good as they used to. i even managed to do an emergency brake the other morning and avoid t-boning some fuckhead who turned across my lane, saw me and stopped in the middle of the lane... missed by like 200mm, but i reckon if the brakes had been mudded i prolly wouldnt gone half way through his engine bay.
Author:  smiffkid [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 12:42 pm ]
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lucky your enginequeered then aron in case of an emergency situation
disc brakes are the way to go tho
Author:  BertZook [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:35 pm ]
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monkey wrote:
christover1 wrote:
monkey wrote:
christover1 wrote:
When I priced new drums, shoes and cylinders for the Vit,
BenT's rear disc conversion was cheaper.

Fit discs, all brake probs are gone



http://www.zanfi.it/modules.php?name=ca ... cts_id=983 :helloo:

All i need to do then is source some sierra front disk's 8)


I bought brand new sierra discs in local brake place,
was only $80 a pair, cheaper than ebay.
Calipers may be harder?



mhh...forgot about them :lol:

What did you do for a hand break?

Caliper's wonder if i would use sierra caliper's to? :?


they also sell a hardcore version with a racing handbreak.... also with a hardcore price tag :lol: http://www.zanfi.it/modules.php?name=ca ... cts_id=978

funny thing I cant still see any calipers :crazy:


so yeah there should be a way to get handbreak...... on other note I remember that the ppl from Piranha products in their "jimny products" (that never got to their website).. they were offering a rear disc conversion... maybe give them a call or email to check that out http://auszookers.com/index.php?name=Fo ... ic&t=13887
Author:  zooky08 [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 4:10 pm ]
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Hey monkey I will check if the bent kit fits the Jimny
I have both my Jimny and Sierra diffs pulled apart ATM
I'll get back to you when I can
Author:  steak_knife [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:12 pm ]
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:helloo:
Clean all the mud & shit out of there & it may shut up


like some wish I would...
Author:  skyman [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:15 pm ]
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The thing I don;t get about the zanfi kit is how you attach the rotors, I suppose that piece is not included?

I had my drums turned down to make adapters, but have not installed the discs yet.
Author:  monley [ Wed Oct 19, 2011 7:48 pm ]
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zooky08 wrote:
Hey monkey I will check if the bent kit fits the Jimny
I have both my Jimny and Sierra diffs pulled apart ATM
I'll get back to you when I can



Don't worrry about it man of it's to much work....i have spoken to Ben and he is looking into it :D

Stekky: I did clean them....they don't make as much noise now :)
Author:  monley [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:27 am ]
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Ok i got new brake shoes today....i have not put them on yet cus i have never change shoes before....so where do i start? Is it just a matter of sliding the old one's straight out? Or what? :roll:
Author:  jimny_timmy [ Wed Oct 26, 2011 9:34 am ]
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monkey wrote:
Ok i got new brake shoes today....i have not put them on yet cus i have never change shoes before....so where do i start? Is it just a matter of sliding the old one's straight out? Or what? :roll:


Take the wheels off :crazy: :helloo:
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