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Author:  shreks [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:08 am ]
Post subject:  what motors bolt to sierra gearbox
what engine would bold or half bolt to a sierra gearbox besides suzuki 1.3 1.6 how do 4age or sr20 or ca18 bolt up??? or other motors
Author:  sideways [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:10 am ]
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shreks wrote:
what engine would bold or half bolt to a sierra gearbox besides suzuki 1.3 1.6 how do 4age or sr20 or ca18 bolt up??? or other motors


You use the gearbox that came with the other motor and a custom jackshaft.
Author:  shreks [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:30 am ]
Post subject:  Re: what motors bolt to sierra gearbox
sideways wrote:
shreks wrote:
what engine would bold or half bolt to a sierra gearbox besides suzuki 1.3 1.6 how do 4age or sr20 or ca18 bolt up??? or other motors


You use the gearbox that came with the other motor and a custom jackshaft.

lol even if its from a front wheel drive
Author:  Ben_Sierra [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:41 am ]
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shreks wrote:
sideways wrote:
shreks wrote:
what engine would bold or half bolt to a sierra gearbox besides suzuki 1.3 1.6 how do 4age or sr20 or ca18 bolt up??? or other motors


You use the gearbox that came with the other motor and a custom jackshaft.

lol even if its from a front wheel drive


Then you find another motor...

Or a RWD gearbox that was used from factory with the same motor...
Author:  stewy91 [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:42 am ]
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You can use a adapter plate for the 1.6 not sure about the rest though
Author:  tanshi [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:46 am ]
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swift or jimny motors will bolt up. thats it
Author:  mrgtt34 [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:46 am ]
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ive heard some where excell fwd 1.5ltr . not sure if its true but
Author:  sideways [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 5:56 am ]
Post subject:  Re: what motors bolt to sierra gearbox
shreks wrote:
sideways wrote:
shreks wrote:
what engine would bold or half bolt to a sierra gearbox besides suzuki 1.3 1.6 how do 4age or sr20 or ca18 bolt up??? or other motors


You use the gearbox that came with the other motor and a custom jackshaft.

lol even if its from a front wheel drive


Lol fuck off and use your brain.
Author:  shreks [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 7:56 am ]
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yeah i knew that i dont mind drilling out new holes and thread or making new engine mounts and stuff
Author:  607CHA [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:04 am ]
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I know that an ae101 20v silver top bolts up to a ae71 rwd box. but not as easy using a ke70 box
Author:  shreks [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:51 am ]
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which would be a better motor out of 4age sr20 ca20 or 18
and which would wire up better
Author:  HarryHoudini [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:29 am ]
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There was a Sierra with a 1300 Corolla motor for sale on Gumtree(may have been Trading Post?) a few weeks back.
Author:  607CHA [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:30 am ]
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Personally id go 4age followed closely by ca18. Both can take a good beating compared to the cast alloy block of sr20
Author:  shreks [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:47 am ]
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do u know what they r like to wire up
Author:  Brenno [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 10:07 am ]
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Look say my build up, it shows everything you need to do to put in a ca18det including wiring.
Author:  LAY80N [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 11:52 am ]
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shreks wrote:
do u know what they r like to wire up



They all will require a fair bit of wiring work to get running PROPERLY. Its not really a question of what would wire up better, more a question of what level if wiring are you capable/confortable with. If you want a straight forward converson the Vit 1.6L 16V is pretty tried and tested. The rest will require a fair bit more work.

Layto....
Author:  shreks [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 12:22 pm ]
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yeah i know all that and i cant get a cheap vit motor i was getting prices from $1600 to $2500 so go with a cheaper engine
Author:  joel [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:40 pm ]
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shreks wrote:
yeah i know all that and i cant get a cheap vit motor i was getting prices from $1600 to $2500 so go with a cheaper engine

if you cant afford that, you wont be able to afford the extra costs and bullshit involved with trying to shoe horn and wire up another engine and have it work properly.

best bet is to just keep saving, cheap g16b come up on here all the time.
Author:  shreks [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 8:24 pm ]
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yeah i got no car at the moment so i not changing motors for fun and i can be handy with wiring before and making custom stuff
Author:  Brenno [ Thu Nov 24, 2011 9:08 pm ]
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its about 150 to have driveshafts lengthened/shortened. Thats $450 to do all three driveshafts. Then you have finding a driveshaft for the gearbox so you can graft the others together, sump modifications, different airbox/induction hosing, engine mounts, gearbox mounts.

In the long run it will be well over your $2400 engine price and could take months.
Author:  LAY80N [ Fri Nov 25, 2011 4:39 am ]
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Unless you have been doing jobs like this for ages, or do them for a living, basically what ever your budget and time line is, double both and that is pretty close to what it will end up at.


Layto....
Author:  Fatzook [ Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:08 am ]
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607CHA wrote:
Personally id go 4age followed closely by ca18. Both can take a good beating compared to the cast alloy block of sr20


I know this is your personal opinion, but both the CA18 and 4age (16v) motors are cast iron blocks, making them far heavier than need be. And I'd hardly call the SR20 weak. Yes, stock for stock the CA has stronger internals, but SR20's are a newer motor, better design, and usually don't need a rebuild before installation, unlike the dinasour CA18's. Its also worth noting thatthe SR20 in standard form (which is way more than any sierra needs ) will last a very long time.

In any even't, all of these motors seem to be out of reach of the OP due to lack of budget or skill.

I vote G16B.
Author:  jimbo_jones [ Fri Nov 25, 2011 5:39 am ]
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Fatzook wrote:
607CHA wrote:
Personally id go 4age followed closely by ca18. Both can take a good beating compared to the cast alloy block of sr20


I know this is your personal opinion, but both the CA18 and 4age (16v) motors are cast iron blocks, making them far heavier than need be. And I'd hardly call the SR20 weak. Yes, stock for stock the CA has stronger internals, but SR20's are a newer motor, better design, and usually don't need a rebuild before installation, unlike the dinasour CA18's. Its also worth noting thatthe SR20 in standard form (which is way more than any sierra needs ) will last a very long time.

In any even't, all of these motors seem to be out of reach of the OP due to lack of budget or skill.

I vote G16B.


Ill 2nd that :helloo:
Author:  joel [ Fri Nov 25, 2011 6:45 am ]
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just g16b it shreks, save yourself the heart ache man, so much more info on it. just hold out and one will pop up in due time.
Author:  shakes [ Fri Nov 25, 2011 7:12 am ]
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Fatzook wrote:
607CHA wrote:
Personally id go 4age followed closely by ca18. Both can take a good beating compared to the cast alloy block of sr20


I know this is your personal opinion, but both the CA18 and 4age (16v) motors are cast iron blocks, making them far heavier than need be. And I'd hardly call the SR20 weak. Yes, stock for stock the CA has stronger internals, but SR20's are a newer motor, better design, and usually don't need a rebuild before installation, unlike the dinasour CA18's. Its also worth noting thatthe SR20 in standard form (which is way more than any sierra needs ) will last a very long time.

In any even't, all of these motors seem to be out of reach of the OP due to lack of budget or skill.

I vote G16B.


And a third.

SR20 would be my engine of choice if I were to go a bigger motor - Know of one that has reliabily run 1000nm at the wheels on a stock bottom end for several ARC rounds.
Author:  shreks [ Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:56 pm ]
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yeah g16b would be good but where can i get 1 i not payin $1600 to $2500
and i dont wanna wait as this is my only car and i need a car

lol i can make stuff fit if we made a 10 sec v8 motor fit and run in a datsun 1000 ute then i not worried about a 4cyl
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Fri Nov 25, 2011 8:19 pm ]
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You're missing the point. Everyone is trying to point out that the costs involved in putting a non-suzuki engine in your car outweigh the cheaper cost of a non-suzuki motor.

That's why the G16B is "expensive" - they are so easy to fit.

Anyway, you aren't looking hard enough if you think they are all $1500 to $2500. Swifts and Balenos are common in wreckers now. Pull-it-youself wreckers will sell you everything required for around $500. There is a small amount more work to run a Baleno/swift motor, but it's far less than the work to run a CA18/4AGE/SR20/anything else.

The problem with engine conversions isn't the engine itself, it's the gearbox. Getting the length of the gearbox in, sorting a hydraulic clutch ( if fitted) adapting a jackshaft, shifting the transfer etc is a huge hassle - that's even if there is a suitable gearbox for the conversion. (I'd argue that for the 4AGE. there really isn't a good gearbox choice)

Steve.
Author:  shreks [ Fri Nov 25, 2011 10:37 pm ]
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yeah whats a g16a tbi like and if i could find a efi suzuki motor for 500 i would buy it today
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