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Author:  caltamz [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:00 am ]
Post subject:  Telling difference in Exedy clutches

Hey guys, just wondering if there was a way of telling the difference between a standard OEM replacement clutch and the heavy duty just by looking at it? Bought what I thought was a HD clutch but it has a silver cover and on the Exedy site it's says silver is the OEM standard version. Is this right? I'm no mechanic as you can tell but any help would be great.
Cheers.

Author:  steak_knife [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:05 am ]
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bright pinkish for the h/d

Should say "sport's tuff" on the box, & box should be bright colored to..


Pic of side on of the pressure plate??

Author:  caltamz [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:56 am ]
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Brisbane brake depot is where i bought it off Ebay. They got back to me saying that the warehouse has been doing this a fair bit to them lately so will see.
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Author:  Scrawny [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:56 am ]
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Stick with the standard one but go get ya money back if there is a difference in price

Author:  steak_knife [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:11 am ]
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that's a h/d box, but the pressure plate is normally the same color as the box

Author:  89_tintop [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:44 am ]
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steak_knife wrote:
that's a h/d box, but the pressure plate is normally the same color as the box


Not all the time.. I have fitted a few and it seems that they only paint the more common one .. Falcon, commodore, skylines etc etc.

Author:  steak_knife [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:47 am ]
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89_tintop wrote:
steak_knife wrote:
that's a h/d box, but the pressure plate is normally the same color as the box


Not all the time.. I have fitted a few and it seems that they only paint the more common one .. Falcon, commodore, skylines etc etc.


:P I lernded something today... :P

Author:  Scrawny [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:49 am ]
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I've seen the Sierra ones pink :helloo:

Author:  steak_knife [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:51 am ]
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Scrawn wrote:
I've seen the Sierra ones pink :helloo:


me to....

Sully's got pink bit's.... :P

Author:  Scrawny [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 5:54 am ]
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Author:  alex [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:01 am ]
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Author:  Fatzook [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 6:05 am ]
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My HD was unpainted.

Author:  superduki [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 7:08 am ]
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Yep same, have a pink sports tuff in my sierra and my GTi, but a bloke from work put one in his pajero and was just metal colour. Maybe exedy are beginning to be tight-arses with production costs?

Cheers Superduki.

Author:  caltamz [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:58 pm ]
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Thanks for all your help guys. The seller agrees that its not what it should be and are going to replace it. It puts me behind as to where i wanted to be but all good as long as its sorted. Cheers again.

Author:  royce [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:11 pm ]
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See how it has the weirdo big fingers? H/D have them, the normal have thinner ones

its very hit and miss as to who gets a pink one, I would fit it

Author:  steak_knife [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:27 pm ]
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royce wrote:
See how it has the weirdo big fingers? H/D have them, the normal have thinner ones

its very hit and miss as to who gets a pink one, I would fit it



Yer he does to!!!!

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Author:  Damo [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:34 pm ]
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I thought HD clutches were the devil?

Author:  steak_knife [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:44 pm ]
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Damo wrote:
I thought HD clutches were the devil?


Depends who make's em...

but i do get sick of typing the same thing, he already has it, so..... :roll:

Author:  steak_knife [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:44 pm ]
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Oh!!! OP, carry spare clutch cable's with you!!!!!!

Author:  HarryHoudini [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:46 pm ]
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..are Exedy the best clutch to install,my Coily is used regulary on the beach.TIA.

Author:  steak_knife [ Sat Jan 07, 2012 9:48 pm ]
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HarryHoudini wrote:
..are Exedy the best clutch to install,my Coily is used regulary on the beach.TIA.


Std yes............. H/d........ Fruck no!!!!!

Author:  royce [ Sun Jan 08, 2012 6:35 am ]
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I reckon exedy HD in a sierra are trouble free but they dont need em if your gearing is good

the extra travel needed to make them work makes them terrible in a Vitara, that doesnt really have the travel spare

Author:  masterA [ Sun Jan 08, 2012 11:28 pm ]
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Alot of people talk about the HD clutches braking clutch cables hence why alot of people don't like them and prefer to use the standard

Author:  CairnsZook [ Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:07 am ]
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masterA wrote:
Alot of people talk about the HD clutches braking clutch cables hence why alot of people don't like them and prefer to use the standard


Yeah, but have they actually broken cables themselves?
Or are they just perpetuating another internet myth because they read it somewhere? :roll:


If anyone has personally snapped one, I would like to know:
1) Where the cable snapped
2) How old was the cable
3) Was it installed correctly and by whom
4) Under what circumstances it snapped, eg. off-road, in traffic etc..



For the record, my HD clutch feels much lighter and smoother than the standard clutch :wink:

Author:  steak_knife [ Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:14 am ]
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CairnsZook wrote:
If anyone has personally snapped one, I would like to know:
1) Where the cable snapped
2) How old was the cable
3) Was it installed correctly and by whom
4) Under what circumstances it snapped, eg. off-road, in traffic etc..



For the record, my HD clutch feels much lighter and smoother than the standard clutch :wink:


A std frucked one????

If the pressure plate is collapsing it would feel better.... :helloo:

Author:  royce [ Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:33 am ]
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CairnsZook wrote:
masterA wrote:
Alot of people talk about the HD clutches braking clutch cables hence why alot of people don't like them and prefer to use the standard


Yeah, but have they actually broken cables themselves?
Or are they just perpetuating another internet myth because they read it somewhere? :roll:


If anyone has personally snapped one, I would like to know:
1) Where the cable snapped
2) How old was the cable
3) Was it installed correctly and by whom
4) Under what circumstances it snapped, eg. off-road, in traffic etc..



For the record, my HD clutch feels much lighter and smoother than the standard clutch :wink:


first (original to the car) in traffic going to work
second (Suzisport supplied) month later in light traffic
third (new genuine suzuki) month later, cant rememeber when

I then changed to a sierra cable, new none genuine
was still bad, a few weeks later I pulled the HD clutch out and fitted a standard excedy, that sierra cable snapped 2.5 years later

Author:  CairnsZook [ Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:51 am ]
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Stekky, there was nothing wrong with the old one.
I just decided to replace it with a HD while I was doing the engine swap :helloo:

I also replaced the clutch cable with a new one from Suzistore.
The old cable was fine, but old. The new one looks nice and new, but doesn't appear to be as well made.
We'll see how long it lasts then. :lol:

Royce, how and where did you cables snap? Did the cable itself part?
Or did the fittings on the end fail?

Author:  royce [ Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:55 am ]
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all the ones that went quickly the outer cable failed where it bends around the bottom hose
the one that lasted snapped the inner at the firewall fitting, this was more from using a sierra cable in a late Vitara, the firewall angle is wrong for it

Author:  Fatzook [ Mon Jan 09, 2012 12:56 am ]
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Mine snapped 1 cable and stretched another to the piont that it could not be adjusted any more. I can't remember where it broke, but it was a cable failure, not an end failure.

HD clutch came out, STD clutch went back in.

Author:  CairnsZook [ Mon Jan 09, 2012 1:05 am ]
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Thanks Royce. Now that I have some actual reasons for them snapping, I know what to look out for :!:


Fatzook, any idea why there was so much pressure on your cable?
Did you have it routed through the engine bay as per factory? Any tight turns that may affect the movement of the cable inside the sheath?
Any crap or corrosion on the GB input shaft affecting the movement of the clutch release bearing?

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