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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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 Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:05 am |
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i have been offered a silly amount of cash for my ute and after seeing how chop's GV works i think i want one.
what problems if any do they have?
are the autos a good thing? can they tow 1450kg safely?
whats the go with the alloy diff do they all have one?
are there any motor choices? if so what is best
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:58 am |
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Look out the GV's are taking over. Gv's came out with 3 different enguines. SWB softops came with a G16 (98-200) all other swb came with the J20a LWB models came with a choice of a J20a or a H25a V6 The autos seem to be very relilable and i dont know of any majour problems with them However the V6 can suffer from noisy timing chains and lifter noise if not serviced correctly. All 4cly models come with alloy diffs. Early V6 autos (98-2001) came with the alloy diff. All manual V6 have the steel diff. Common issues they can have are the air operated front diff can have issues but is easily fixed by swapping in a Vitara center. The early ones had a factory recall to fix an issue with the T/case. When it comes to lifting them the majour limit is your front CV's. Hope this is correct and helps you decide. Oh and welcome 
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:59 am |
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Towing......450kg unbraked
1850kg with trailer brakes
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Chop
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Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 6456 Location: Radelaide ofcourse!
Vehicle: Suzuki GV 03/ 2010 DDIS NGV
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:06 am |
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Mine may have converted shep   My book says all 5 door models 450kg unbraked and 680kg braked but XL7 is bigger at 1350kg braked. Everything B4T says covers it all. CV's can go in these easier with the extra power, so maybe some spare cv's for one. And i'm rather bias towards a 2003-04 model with the updated dash/interior, it looks nicer  My 03 auto has a steel diff up front, 02 and earlier auto's i'm pretty sure are all alloy.
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Sco-tie
Joined: Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:02 pm Posts: 928 Location: Adelaide hills!
Vehicle: 04 Grand Vitara, 2.5L, V6
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Doubley agree with B4T and Chop on all accounts the timing chain is normally a bit rattley on cold starts but smooths out pretty quickly, Im pretty happy with the towing, not huge but still decent house load on 10x6 trailor and didnt feel it on the end. as for the 03-04 models interior is a bit step up on the pre ones. IMO 03-04 was the GVs prime for comfort, affordabily, off road cred with out having it too family bubbly style
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Joe
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Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:04 pm |
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Older style dash  Newer style dash  For towing your boat (if ya get an auto) Shep i'd invest in a transmission cooler I reckon they look great with a bit of lift and some bigger tyres 
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Last edited by Joe on Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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atari4x4
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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:11 pm |
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Chop wrote: Mine may have converted atari4x4 .
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TheOtherLeft
Joined: Sun Aug 27, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 818 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:35 pm |
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Joe wrote: Older style dash, driver only airbag My 2002 SWB with the older dash has 2 airbags.
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Joe
I live here!
Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 49041 Location: Rockingham W.A
Vehicle: JB74
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:39 pm |
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TheOtherLeft wrote: Joe wrote: Older style dash, driver only airbag My 2002 SWB with the older dash has 2 airbags. Yeah Laure sent me a pm just before saying his was the same ill edit my post up to suit
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 3:59 pm |
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With the GMV being at 3800kgs id take a guess that braked towing is 1850.
Kerb weight + Tare mass + braked towing = Gross Combined Mass
1405 + 545 + 1850 = 3800
oppied from Redbook.com.au
Kerb Weight (kg) 1405
Wheel Base (mm) 2480
Tare Mass (kg) 1383
Length (mm) 4195
Gross Combination Mass (kg) 3800
Width (mm) 1780
Gross Vehicle Mass (kg) 1950
Height (mm) 1740
Pay Load (kg) 545
Track Front (mm) 1500
Towing Braked (kg) 1850
Track Rear (mm) 1500
Towing Not Braked (kg) 450
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fordem
Joined: Mon Apr 19, 2010 11:30 pm Posts: 2656 Location: Georgetown, Guyana
Vehicle: APK416, A6G415, A6N415
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Older style dash is easier to work with if you want to replace the stereo, add a UHF, etc. and a lot less electrickery - newer style dash has the BCM (body control module) which replaces a bunch of individual controllers on the older model - wipers, washers, power windows, power locks turn signals, etc., etc., etc., all controlled by a single box behind the dash.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14499 Location: Here there everywhere
Vehicle: A manly awesome man jimny
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:54 am |
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with the rattling timing chain, do they all do it on start up?
what should i pay for a lateish auto in goodish condition?
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BlueSuzy
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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9715 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:05 am |
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_________________ BlueSuzy wrote: I'm over the G16b's.
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laurie
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Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1540 Location: Blackbutt
Vehicle: LJ80
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:04 pm |
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shep wrote: with the rattling timing chain, do they all do it on start up?
what should i pay for a lateish auto in goodish condition? mine don't 
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:37 pm |
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Not all rattle on start up. Mine used to but not anymore.
To reduce the noise you need to do an oil flush to disolve all the carbon and sludge that builds up in the oil galleries and run a quallity oil. Might take several flushes but once its clean it will reduce chain noise quite alot.
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twitchy
Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 1086 Location: Lightning Ridge
Vehicle: 1999 Jimny
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:14 pm |
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Love mine so far but needs to grow taller..... Tax time will see some improvements.
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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twitchy wrote: Love mine so far but needs to grow taller..... Tax time will see some improvements. Ive grown used to mine and it now doesnt feel or look tall enough. Might be time for some lifted Front XL7 coils and some alone time in the garage.
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:10 pm |
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Ok here are a couple of questions I have:
1. are the 2 litre 4 cyl lwb autos ok or are they underpowered
2. what is the fuel consumption like with the v6
3. what is fuel consumption like with the 2litre
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Built4thrashing
Joined: Wed May 21, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 4972 Location: Dandenong .Vic
Vehicle: 1999 GV. Locked and Lifted
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[quote="2stroker"]Ok here are a couple of questions I have:
1. are the 2 litre 4 cyl lwb autos ok or are they underpowered Dont have one so not sure but at a guess id say yes
2. what is the fuel consumption like with the v6 V6 manual with 80mm lift, 245/75/16 muds, bar +winch, 4.8 diff gears and roof rack i get 300-400 around town and 500km+ on the HWY depending on how i drive.
3. what is fuel consumption like with the 2litredont know Im guessing it would be better around town than the V6 but worse on the hwy[/quote]
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laurie
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Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1540 Location: Blackbutt
Vehicle: LJ80
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 10:06 am |
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my 2.5 man 2 inch lift, bar, 235/70/16 tyres gets
9.8l per 100klm around town
9.25l per 100klm hwy at 110kph
8.04l per 100klm hwy at 85 kph
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2stroker
Joined: Sun Sep 07, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 2689 Location: North Brisbane
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 7:18 pm |
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So does anyone have a 2 litre auto GV??
I would love to buy a pre 2006 GV but really HATE the idea of V6 rego.
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dhula
Joined: Sun Jan 01, 2012 2:05 am Posts: 207 Location: Rockingham, West Oz
Vehicle: 2002 GV V6 and self shifter
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Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:14 pm |
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Can't comment on the 2l auto as I don't ave one (so pointless of posting I know, but I felt left out and wanted to say sumtin) but I do have a 2l manual in a shorty (2004 model) and I recon it's a better choice than a V6 auto.
I like the 2l as it feels much more torky down lower than the V6. Shure rev the V6 and she goes awsome (sounds nice too) but I just recon the 2l is a better overall engine. Be interesting to see how a 2l auto does go.
Fuel consumption wise,
average for our V6 auto lwb= 12l per 100kms. Best so far is 10.3L/100kms
average for our 2l man swb - 10l per 100kms. Best so far is 7.7l/100kms (I shit you not: 34.86liters for 438.8kms. I have NFI how I did it tho)
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