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Author:  ROAR99 [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:12 pm ]
Post subject:  vitara g,box (moded) or sierra g,box ?

is there a way to tell difference between moded vitara g,box & sierra g,box...
i put the 1.6 carby motor in a while ago that came with g,box attached ( out of a 93 sierra) but i used my original sierra g,box.

wondering if the one it came with is a moded vitara g,box?
so far only diference i can see is there is no timing hole on the housing.
and the front half of the box looks newer than the back half (alloy stain)

if so are the vitara boxes a bit stronger than the 1.3 sierra box?

Author:  Rusho [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: vitara g,box (moded) or sierra g,box ?

Is there an adapter plate between engine and gearbox? Did standard Sierra g'box mount line up? If so I would assume Sierra g'box 8)

Author:  ROAR99 [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: vitara g,box (moded) or sierra g,box ?

Rusho wrote:
Is there an adapter plate between engine and gearbox? Did standard Sierra g'box mount line up? If so I would assume Sierra g'box 8)

yeah it had the adapter plate, i left my original box in the car and bolter the new 1.6 and adapter straite on..
i noticed later my g,box mount was broken so i swaped it with the other one (bolted straite on)

do early w/t sierras have the timing hole on the bell housing?

Author:  Rusho [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 6:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: vitara g,box (moded) or sierra g,box ?

Not sure mate, but I'm very confident that you have a Sierra box

Author:  want33s [ Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: vitara g,box (moded) or sierra g,box ?

You have both gearboxes there... Do they look the same?
I'd say they are both Sierra.

Author:  jonno_racing [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 7:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: vitara g,box (moded) or sierra g,box ?

yep thats a sierra.
the vit box has transfer attached, however you can devorce it, but its easy to tell the diffrence.

Author:  2stroker [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 8:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: vitara g,box (moded) or sierra g,box ?

The Vit box is physically larger and chunkier to look at, unlike a sierra box which has a jackshaft to the transfer the vit box has transfer bolted to it, when the transfer is removed from it there is a shaft that extends out the back and it is very obvious to look at that something needs tobe bolted on the back of it to finish it off..

Author:  2stroker [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 9:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: vitara g,box (moded) or sierra g,box ?

I just searched for a while but could not find it, can anyone find the thread where (i think it was Joeblow) made a housing that bolted on the back of a Vitara gearbox so that it can be used ith a Sierra jackshaft and remote transfer.

Author:  tanshi [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: vitara g,box (moded) or sierra g,box ?

autoss need the adapter for them. manual vit boxes can be divorced and use a sierra jack shaft without the adapter plate.

vitara gearbox looks like this
Image

sierra looks like this

Image

Author:  2stroker [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: vitara g,box (moded) or sierra g,box ?

Hi Tanshi, I thought that on the manual and the auto it left a big void at the back and a shaft hanging in the air with no rear support, I am sure I saw someone made a plate that bolted up to the back to cover the void with a bearing in it to support the shaft, from memory I tought it was a Joeblow thread.

Author:  tanshi [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: vitara g,box (moded) or sierra g,box ?

2stroker wrote:
Hi Tanshi, I thought that on the manual and the auto it left a big void at the back and a shaft hanging in the air with no rear support, I am sure I saw someone made a plate that bolted up to the back to cover the void with a bearing in it to support the shaft, from memory I tought it was a Joeblow thread.


the one joe made was for an auto. the manual vit has less "overhang" of shaft past the last support bearing. the auto has too much over hang to work well so they add a support adapter.

if its an auto, you can buy supports for them from lowrange, but the manual doesnt need one.

Author:  2stroker [ Thu Apr 05, 2012 1:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: vitara g,box (moded) or sierra g,box ?

That makes sense, it may have actually been that blue LJ of Ken's with a 4 speed vit auto

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