[fully sick coily]

hey every one just after some ideas for a winch bar
i am only using a 4000lb winch as it is all i can afford atm

[SierraDan]

Check out the name on that picture. "ATV" winch.
Save up a little longer and get a 6000lb at least.

[xedent]

I just noticed that Tigerz11 winches are on special on there website the 6000lb is $325.
http://tigerz11.com.au/categories/Grande-Winches/

[fully sick coily]

the only reason i was going 4000lb was because it may never get used
it is mainly as a last resort or if im by myself and i manage to get stuck
i was thinking something like this

[SierraDan]

Imagine if you were stuck so good, the 4000lb wouldnt get you out..

[fully sick coily]

hopefully i never get stuck that bad

[Fatzook]

fully sick coily wrote:

hopefully i never get stuck that bad

If thats the thought process you are using, then just buy a hand winch and save some money.

[abclarke]

Or just drive with good intentions, basically the same thought process

[GRPABT1]

If it's a last resort then you're going to be stuck bad. There is no point in running a winch that won't be dependable.

[Fatzook]

abclarke wrote:

Or just drive with good intentions, basically the same thought process

Hahahaha

[monley]

GRPABT1 wrote:

If it's a last resort then you're going to be stuck bad. There is no point in running a winch that won't be dependable.

x1678211862

This is why i went for a 9000LB winch.

[fully sick coily]

Fatzook wrote:

fully sick coily wrote:

hopefully i never get stuck that bad

If thats the thought process you are using, then just buy a hand winch and save some money.

Good idea

[2stroker]

GRPABT1 wrote:

If it's a last resort then you're going to be stuck bad. There is no point in running a winch that won't be dependable.

Actually that is not really the case, 99% of the time that you are stuck you are not stuck bad and it only needs a little bit to get you moving again. 4000 is probably a bit small but is has to be better than no winch at all, in the end if it gets you out of trouble it is better than walking away.

[2stroker]

SierraDan wrote:

Imagine if you were stuck so good, the 4000lb wouldnt get you out..

If we are going to be imagining stuff why not go all the way - Imagine if you were stuck so bad that a 9000lb wouldn't get you out..

or imagine if you had an LJ and so you just never got stuck..

[ajsr]

dont waste your time with anything smaller than 6000lbs in a winch and make sure its series wound motor
the 6000 below will lift my whole car off the ground, where as a mate bought an atv stlye winch that cooked itself the first time it ever got used for a half serious recovery
http://tigerz11.com.au/products/GRANDE- ... EEMA-.html
or if your too tight for the above
http://tigerz11.com.au/products/HAND-WINCH-3200KGS.html

[Gwagensteve]

So much false economy here. Spending $400 on a winch that is unlikely to be to pull you out when you really need it= fail
spending days and $$$ building a winch bar to take a winch that can't pull you out=fail
Finding out that the winch bar you've made won't fit a 6000lb winch: priceless - 4000lb winches generally don't have the 10X4.5" mounting pattern of 6K an up winches, so you have to build something to take them.

I disagree that a 4000lb winch is "better than nothing" a winch that's too small can be dangerous for the brake and long-pull reasons I outlined before. Part of the problem with electric winches is that once you have one you drive differently - you assess an obstacle based on your ability to winch out of it rather than trying to avoid getting stuck. I know this from personal experience from many years ago. Doing this with a winch that's too small to do the job if you are fairly stuck isn't ideal.




Steve.

[fully sick coily]

2stroker wrote:

GRPABT1 wrote:

If it's a last resort then you're going to be stuck bad. There is no point in running a winch that won't be dependable.

Actually that is not really the case, 99% of the time that you are stuck you are not stuck bad and it only needs a little bit to get you moving again. 4000 is probably a bit small but is has to be better than no winch at all, in the end if it gets you out of trouble it is better than walking away.

Exactly and its not as if in tight im on first year aprentise wages.

Obviously im not goiing to be trying to winch out of a bog hole with it
like i said before its a last resort

[just_cruizin]

poor man pays twice, learnt the hard way. just save a bit more and get the right thing regardless of your intensions. Kinda like buying a 1 tonne "d" shackle.

[joel]

fully sick coily wrote:

2stroker wrote:

GRPABT1 wrote:

If it's a last resort then you're going to be stuck bad. There is no point in running a winch that won't be dependable.

Actually that is not really the case, 99% of the time that you are stuck you are not stuck bad and it only needs a little bit to get you moving again. 4000 is probably a bit small but is has to be better than no winch at all, in the end if it gets you out of trouble it is better than walking away.

Exactly and its not as if in tight im on first year aprentise wages.

Obviously im not goiing to be trying to winch out of a bog hole with it
like i said before its a last resort

i dont understand.
whats the point of getting it if you cant get out of a bog hole with it? and if you have tried everything and the winch is a last resort, you would want it to be a good last resort, not something designed for a quad bike.
either get a hand winch or a decent winch.

[monley]

fully sick coily wrote:

2stroker wrote:

GRPABT1 wrote:

If it's a last resort then you're going to be stuck bad. There is no point in running a winch that won't be dependable.

Actually that is not really the case, 99% of the time that you are stuck you are not stuck bad and it only needs a little bit to get you moving again. 4000 is probably a bit small but is has to be better than no winch at all, in the end if it gets you out of trouble it is better than walking away.

Exactly and its not as if in tight im on first year aprentise wages.

Obviously im not goiing to be trying to winch out of a bog hole with it
like i said before its a last resort

What's your point?

I'm still an apprentice, and i have built my whole car of apprentice wages. Just save up for another 2-3weeks until you can afford the better product. That's what i have had to do for my whole build.

[SierraDan]

fully sick coily wrote:

2stroker wrote:

GRPABT1 wrote:

If it's a last resort then you're going to be stuck bad. There is no point in running a winch that won't be dependable.

Actually that is not really the case, 99% of the time that you are stuck you are not stuck bad and it only needs a little bit to get you moving again. 4000 is probably a bit small but is has to be better than no winch at all, in the end if it gets you out of trouble it is better than walking away.

Exactly and its not as if in tight im on first year aprentise wages.

Obviously im not goiing to be trying to winch out of a bog hole with it
like i said before its a last resort

Don't wheel by yourself for a couple of weeks then and save for the bigger one?
I'd rather not need it and have it, than need it and not have it.

[ZookFan]

SierraDan wrote:

Check out the name on that picture. "ATV" winch.
Save up a little longer and get a 6000lb at least.

X2

[joel]

monley wrote:

fully sick coily wrote:

2stroker wrote:

GRPABT1 wrote:

If it's a last resort then you're going to be stuck bad. There is no point in running a winch that won't be dependable.

Actually that is not really the case, 99% of the time that you are stuck you are not stuck bad and it only needs a little bit to get you moving again. 4000 is probably a bit small but is has to be better than no winch at all, in the end if it gets you out of trouble it is better than walking away.

Exactly and its not as if in tight im on first year aprentise wages.

Obviously im not goiing to be trying to winch out of a bog hole with it
like i said before its a last resort

What's your point?

I'm still an apprentice, and i have built my whole car of apprentice wages. Just save up for another 2-3weeks until you can afford the better product. That's what i have had to do for my whole build.

pretty sure you earn more than i did when i was in the army monley lol, your chassis rails are filled with gold i have been told.

[monley]

joel wrote:

monley wrote:

fully sick coily wrote:

2stroker wrote:

GRPABT1 wrote:

If it's a last resort then you're going to be stuck bad. There is no point in running a winch that won't be dependable.

Actually that is not really the case, 99% of the time that you are stuck you are not stuck bad and it only needs a little bit to get you moving again. 4000 is probably a bit small but is has to be better than no winch at all, in the end if it gets you out of trouble it is better than walking away.

Exactly and its not as if in tight im on first year aprentise wages.

Obviously im not goiing to be trying to winch out of a bog hole with it
like i said before its a last resort

What's your point?

I'm still an apprentice, and i have built my whole car of apprentice wages. Just save up for another 2-3weeks until you can afford the better product. That's what i have had to do for my whole build.

pretty sure you earn more than i did when i was in the army monley lol, your chassis rails are filled with gold i have been told.

Who told you

Unless you were making less than $8 a hour, then i would been making more than you It's all in the over time

[fully sick coily]

Im only on $7 per hr

[SierraDan]

Save up a little longer mate. It'll be much more worthwhile.

[31zook]

I picked up a warn 8000lb lowmount with 30m of synthetic rope for $400.

There is good deals out there

[bailey08]

use a couple of snatch blocks.

[tombutt]

Save your money for a bit longer and get atleast a 6000 if its your last resort you are obviously pretty stuck so you want to know it will do the job and alot of guys on here have built cars on apprentice wages it all just means you have to save and wait for items until you can afford them.

[SierraDan]

^ Yep yep. My car was built and bought on $400 a week.