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Author:  jimbo_jones [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:28 pm ]
Post subject:  axle wont go back in -sierra-

I just replaced my bent w/t diff housing and fitted new wheel bearing kits to the axles all went on good but when I put the long axle in it wont go in all the way the short axle went in easy and I did the wheel bearings the same way looks like it needs to go in another 2mm what have I done wrong?? :(

hers a pic of the wheel bearing cousing me to swear

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Author:  Scrawny [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: axle wont go back in -sierra-

So the bearing doesn't go all the way? They are supposed to sit out slightly

Author:  jimbo_jones [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:43 pm ]
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I cant tighten the backing plate all the way down like the other side its got me fucked

Author:  zooky08 [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:52 pm ]
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how much bearing is sticking out when you wack the axle in. ii think there ment to stick out around 1-3mm. if the bearing is right in the backing plate should tighten right up

Author:  Daves4wd [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: axle wont go back in -sierra-

It looks like that collor is not tight try give it all a press down and see if that helps and makes sure where the bearing sits on the housing is clean and free Of shit and the seal is in all the way and right way in

Author:  jimbo_jones [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: axle wont go back in -sierra-

the bearing and coller are all the way down I used a pipe to wack it down I know the coller is on the right way a the wheelberings ment to go on one way like are they tapped?

Author:  mrw82 [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:47 pm ]
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Do you have the spacer installed on the other side of the bearing (between bearing and machined shoulder).

Author:  jimbo_jones [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: axle wont go back in -sierra-

mrw82 wrote:
Do you have the spacer installed on the other side of the bearing (between bearing and machined shoulder).



no there was no spacer when I pulled it of there was only a bearing and coller
a spacer would make it worse the backing plate would stick out futher.

Author:  SierraDan [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 8:39 pm ]
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Did the bearing have more meat on one side than the other? Some brands have the spacer built in.

Author:  christover1 [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:36 pm ]
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Is there any damage on splines or diff side gears, may be its the diff end, rather than the wheel bearing end giving problems

Author:  Jackson [ Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:03 pm ]
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jimbo_jones wrote:
mrw82 wrote:
Do you have the spacer installed on the other side of the bearing (between bearing and machined shoulder).



no there was no spacer when I pulled it of there was only a bearing and coller
a spacer would make it worse the backing plate would stick out futher.


Without the spacer wouldn't the bearing be further out on the axle? So without the spacer maybe it is running out of spline before the bearing is fully in the housing.

Author:  mrw82 [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: axle wont go back in -sierra-

Jackson wrote:
jimbo_jones wrote:
mrw82 wrote:
Do you have the spacer installed on the other side of the bearing (between bearing and machined shoulder).



no there was no spacer when I pulled it of there was only a bearing and coller
a spacer would make it worse the backing plate would stick out futher.


Without the spacer wouldn't the bearing be further out on the axle? So without the spacer maybe it is running out of spline before the bearing is fully in the housing.


Bingo....



It should either have a spacer, or a bearing with the spacer built into the inner race. the separate spacer design was in 1.0 litre and 1.3NT the design was changed to the spacer being built in in WT. but either type will work. But no good without the spacer.


You'll have to pull the short side and check it too.

Author:  jimbo_jones [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: axle wont go back in -sierra-

I check after work cheers

Author:  zooky08 [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 9:17 am ]
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What's this so called spacer you talking about, never seen on on a bearing nor, have used one and my backing always does up tight when I use to do my Sierra bearings.
I put on the backing plate, bearing then collier and it works for me.
Is it just a big washer? Or some thing?

Author:  SierraDan [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: axle wont go back in -sierra-

Sometimes its a "washer" seperate to the bearing, but most of the time its built into the bearing.

Author:  zooky08 [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 10:57 am ]
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Okay cool I must not have taken much notice.

Author:  jimbo_jones [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: axle wont go back in -sierra-

I see the problem now the bearings that came of had a spacer built in and the ones supplied don't looks like au wasted my money on thease bearings will have to go see a mate with a press to see if I can press them of without damageing them

Author:  SierraDan [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:48 pm ]
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they press off easily without damage. ive done it before.

Author:  want33s [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:37 pm ]
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The bearings for NT don't have the collar built into them, they run a seperate ring hence cheap bearings.
WT use an almost identical bearing with a wider inner seat so the spacer ring isn't required. These bearings are a lot dearer.

Ideal solution for WT's is to run NT spacers and bearings.

Author:  jimbo_jones [ Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: axle wont go back in -sierra-

this is what I bought of ebay the bearing were ment to be jap bearings but they sent me hch chinese one I rang the company this arvo ant there going to express post the right ones to me on moonday so I should have the zook back fixed tues arvo
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/270937822610 ... 1497.l2649

auszookers rules thanks for the help I would never have thought to look for a spacer

Author:  vandle [ Sun Apr 15, 2012 7:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: axle wont go back in -sierra-

mrw82 wrote:
Jackson wrote:
jimbo_jones wrote:
mrw82 wrote:
Do you have the spacer installed on the other side of the bearing (between bearing and machined shoulder).



no there was no spacer when I pulled it of there was only a bearing and coller
a spacer would make it worse the backing plate would stick out futher.


Without the spacer wouldn't the bearing be further out on the axle? So without the spacer maybe it is running out of spline before the bearing is fully in the housing.


Bingo....



It should either have a spacer, or a bearing with the spacer built into the inner race. the separate spacer design was in 1.0 litre and 1.3NT the design was changed to the spacer being built in in WT. but either type will work. But no good without the spacer.


You'll have to pull the short side and check it too.


x2

I left mine out accidently and I had the exact same problem
put the spacer back in and went in no problems

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