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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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Gday all, Who knows who can make me some custom flexi brake lines for the maruti.
Have searched here, on the net, all I could find that looked close was Titan and they are trailer only.
I could use custom hard lines, but flex would be so very much easier.
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SierraDan

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Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2011 10:55 pm Posts: 9347 Location: Newcastle
Vehicle: G13BB Jimny
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Brake shop.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Most hydraulics places (pirtek/ enzed) will do ADR approved brake lines.
They won't make them over 500mm long though, if that changes anything.
Steve
Last edited by Gwagensteve on Mon Apr 23, 2012 11:00 am, edited 1 time in total.
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BlueSuzy

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Joined: Sun May 04, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 9711 Location: NSW
Vehicle: SJ51 LWB, SJ70 SWB
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Any brake place will be able to make them for you, Certain hydraulic places can too.
They can get expensive.
3yr ago i got some longer ones made for my swb sierra, mine were $35 a brakeline. Now they are $55 from the same place..With the normal zook fittings, The $55 were actually shorter..
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303zuke

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Joined: Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2447
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Any Hydraulic supplier like Pirtek or Enzed could make them up. They have told me that for ADR/legal purposes, they cannot call them "Brake Lines", but will have the correct fittings and the hose will be sufficient pressure rated. Can also be optioned up with with wire spring wrap/gravelguard, or even as stainless braided.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Local hydraulics places will make ADR approved. They are identified as such and recorded by the manufacturer.
If you exceed 500mm then no ADR approval is possible.
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34843 Location: East Radelayed
Vehicle: SV420+SV620 Vitara's
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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I cannot fit a brake booster into the engine bay, so I am getting PBR ones that will run from the back of the cab, need seperate front and rear.
Will chat with the Adelaide guys, thanks all.
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8135 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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Dave I would recommend steel lines with flexi at the ends if needed.
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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Jas, called Power brakes, yep, thats their recomendation.
So I need to get home and do some measurements and get them made up as steel, another go slow thing.
Can I make them, buy a bender and flaring tool and the correct threads ?
Be good if Its do-able.
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want33s

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Joined: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 8135 Location: Sunshine Coast Qld
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SuziBlu wrote: Jas, called Power brakes, yep, thats their recomendation.
So I need to get home and do some measurements and get them made up as steel, another go slow thing.
Can I make them, buy a bender and flaring tool and the correct threads ?
Be good if Its do-able. You can buy bundy tube, flaring tools and line fittings all online and it isn't hard to bend lines to shape around an aerosol can or similar.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Just as an aside, and I'm not seeking to start an argument, but in my opinion, there's no need for a brake booster in a sierra. My car runs LWB vitara front callipers and rotors, sierra rear callipers and rotors and an auto, so I have limited engine braking on road, and it stops really well with a 1 1/6" GT forester master cylinder and no booster. That's with the heaviest 35" tyres, and the heaviest alloys available.*
It sounds to me like you are doing a metric fawkload of work that isn't really required.
Go crazy, and it sounds like an interesting idea, but I'm not sure I'd bother. I'll put a (2.0 V6) booster in my type 3 LWB cab, because it's a bolt in, but I wouldn't go out of my way to run one.
Steve.
* A note that's not relevant to SuziBlu's situation, but might come up if someone is searching. My braking is marginal in low range 1st and reverse. The combination of an AW-4, 6.4:1 transfer and 5.12 diffs means my car wants to drive over the brakes in low range. This is not really a brake problem, it's a torque-at-the-wheels problem- to add enough brakes to prevent this I'd probably need $$$$$$ multi-piston bling. - total overkill for when the car is on the move. I knew this was going to be a problem - it's the same issue for anyone with deep reduction and an auto.
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Teracis
Joined: Sat Dec 11, 2010 10:03 pm Posts: 2261 Location: Gold Coast
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Gwagensteve wrote: Just as an aside, and I'm not seeking to start an argument, but in my opinion, there's no need for a brake booster in a sierra. My car runs LWB vitara front callipers and rotors, sierra rear callipers and rotors and an auto, so I have limited engine braking on road, and it stops really well with a 1 1/6" GT forester master cylinder and no booster. That's with the heaviest 35" tyres, and the heaviest alloys available.*
It sounds to me like you are doing a metric fawkload of work that isn't really required.
Go crazy, and it sounds like an interesting idea, but I'm not sure I'd bother. I'll put a (2.0 V6) booster in my type 3 LWB cab, because it's a bolt in, but I wouldn't go out of my way to run one.
Steve.
* A note that's not relevant to SuziBlu's situation, but might come up if someone is searching. My braking is marginal in low range 1st and reverse. The combination of an AW-4, 6.4:1 transfer and 5.12 diffs means my car wants to drive over the brakes in low range. This is not really a brake problem, it's a torque-at-the-wheels problem- to add enough brakes to prevent this I'd probably need $$$$$$ multi-piston bling. - total overkill for when the car is on the move. I knew this was going to be a problem - it's the same issue for anyone with deep reduction and an auto. Even with only 6.5's and 3.7 diffs with a manual it will drive through the brakes, difference is the clutch lets you get out of that problem far easier, I'm sure theres a lot of things the auto makes up for though!
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 12997 Location: Melbourne
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Your definition of "drive though the brakes" and mine must be different  I could drive through the brakes with my 660 and the gearing as above. If I engage reverse to back down a hill, it's effectively impossible to stop the car whilst reverse is engaged, even with two feet very firmly on the brake, ironically, (and it's counter intuitive) if I let my foot of the brake the car crawls very slowly and in control. It's when I try to stop it that's the problem, Bumping neutral is the cure. It's not really a solution for everyone, but I don't want to give up my gearing. I'll add it's no problem on the road or in high range. Sierrajim runs the same gearing, and left to idle his car will idle OVER his car trailer and onto the A frame  Steve.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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Gwagensteve wrote: but in my opinion, there's no need for a brake booster in a sierra. x2, I loved my 1 litre with 4 wheel disc and no booster at very best I would only boost the fronts and stick the booster behind the glovebox
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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Food for thought.
I just wanted to boost because its soposed to get to 100k and stop hard, multiple times says the engineer, just thinking a softish pedal may not be to his liking is all.
35s to pull up.
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royce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 17216 Location: Pluto
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no way an unboosted pedal could ever be called soft and a booster doesnt increase braking ability if you are man enough to press the pedal
run vit brakes on the front if you want more
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mrw82

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Joined: Tue Jul 03, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 1350 Location: stuck in a hole. not off road, just deception bay.
Vehicle: snotbox, 84 LWB sierra 1 litre
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Royce what disk brake setup did you run on the rear of your 1 litre?
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SuziBlu
Joined: Mon Sep 14, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 4268 Location: Eyre Peninsula
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Royce, I have LWB vitara rotors n 600° pads up front, fad will not be an issue.
Im of two minds to put the power steering in, most people says that with large wheels sierras are too hard to turn, same sort of thing as the unboosted brakes, I dont have a worry, but was just thinking would look better for an engineer, upgraded everything.
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weaves

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Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1564 Location: Newcastle
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SuziBlu wrote: Jas, called Power brakes, yep, thats their recomendation.
So I need to get home and do some measurements and get them made up as steel, another go slow thing.
Can I make them, buy a bender and flaring tool and the correct threads ?
Be good if Its do-able. I bought the double flaring tool and a bender for around the $60.00 mark through my work. and i have a couple of customers that are brake shops, they sorted me out with the material to make it. It takes a few minutes to make once you have the size you need.
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GRPABT1
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 731 Location: Townsville
Vehicle: 88 SWB WT Sierra soft top ute
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I don't find 34x10.5" tyres to hard to turn with manual steering. The manual steering in my V8 commodore is harder when at car park speeds due to a fair bit of castor and obviously the weight of a heavy V8 motor. Things like drag links and tie rods might bend being only toothpick size on a zook though, but I haven't had a drama with one yet except for the one I bashed on a tree stump and bent.
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weaves

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Joined: Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:30 pm Posts: 1564 Location: Newcastle
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The turning resistance would be created by the width rather than the height of the tyre. I have never had a drama turning 10.5's either. While there have been plenty of times where powersteering would have been nice, there was never a time it restricted me.
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GRPABT1
Joined: Mon Nov 19, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 731 Location: Townsville
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Aired down on high traction surfaces like rock I think the height of the tyre will come into play with steering resistance.
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royce

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mrw82 wrote: Royce what disk brake setup did you run on the rear of your 1 litre? Sierra fronts 
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Bruce

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Joined: Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 4003 Location: Brisbane
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royce wrote: mrw82 wrote: Royce what disk brake setup did you run on the rear of your 1 litre? Sierra fronts  That's my next mod 
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tanshi

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Joined: Tue Jan 09, 2007 10:30 pm Posts: 7719 Location: Brisbane
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Bruce wrote: royce wrote: mrw82 wrote: Royce what disk brake setup did you run on the rear of your 1 litre? Sierra fronts  That's my next mod  with floaters ? ! ? 
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Bruce

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tanshi wrote: Bruce wrote: royce wrote: mrw82 wrote: Royce what disk brake setup did you run on the rear of your 1 litre? Sierra fronts  That's my next mod  with floaters ? ! ?  
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