stolen from here
Ebay link to one
get one of these made up. all you will need then is a bosch 044 or bosch 070 (out of a vl turbo) and a lift pump. facet make a few good ones
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| Author: | shiv [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
I have printed off alot of info on the conversion topics but still not sure how to set up the fuel. I have googled bunch of setups and just couldnt grasp whats involved. I want to keep my long ranger fuel tank if i can (i do have the donar Vitara tank) what are the options? I dont mind spending a bit, if its a simple setup and will save time. Vehical is Spring Under with 2" Body Lift Ideas were : - Lift Pump and Surge Tank - Swirl Pot and Vit pump into the long ranger - high pressure arrangement - make the vit tank fit any other options? Sorta looking for the simplest way of going about it? |
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| Author: | Rossco [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
A coily tank bolts into the Sierra stock tank mounts and the vitara intank pump fits into the coily tank. This is how I did mine. Really easy but it can be hard to find a coily tank. |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
The long ranger may already have a swirl pot in it. My mates one did. If this is the case, you just need to extend the cage on the donor pump ( so it is the right depth ) and fit to the tank. You MAY need to have the pump mounting boss changed if your current one does not suit the vit pump. Exhaust these options before going external pumps and surge tank. Whilst both methods are equally effective, the in-tank will be the neatest option. |
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| Author: | shiv [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
ok i havnt checked yet but is the fuel pumps bolt in or weld in? |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
shiv wrote: ok i havnt checked yet but is the fuel pumps bolt in or weld in? The pump sits in a mounting cage. The cage bolts to a mounting ring that is welded to the top of the tank. If your lank has NO mounting ring, you will need to have one made ( $25 at a machine shop ) and have it welded to the top of your tank, after the hole has been cut for the pump. Email long Ranger and see who their authorised dealer/ repairer is in your area, and get a quote from them. Welding to tanks can be dangerous if you don't know what you are doing. |
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| Author: | reeceh [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 11:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
I have the g16b in my Sierra. I was told by many people to just run standard carby tank to a vl efi pump to efi filter to engine. Should have listened to the minority that said surge tank etc. my mechanic mate took it for a spin and straight away picked up on the lack of fuel around corners. So we are getting a small underbody surge tank, lifter pump etc. Goes to show not everyone is right! |
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| Author: | caboose [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
stolen from here Ebay link to one get one of these made up. all you will need then is a bosch 044 or bosch 070 (out of a vl turbo) and a lift pump. facet make a few good ones |
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| Author: | shiv [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
Cheers Guys. Caboose. how is it set up. Tank>Surge Tank>filter>EFI Pump>Back to Tank? |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
Sorry the pic is so small. I'll try and make a clearer one.  Fixed it. |
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| Author: | caboose [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
tank > lift pump > surge tank > EFI pump > injector rail > pressure reg > surge tank > tank thats the usual set up. should at lest have 2 filters in that system. a z14 or similar between the tank and lift pump and a z200 between the efi pump and injector rail |
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| Author: | shiv [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
yeah a clear pic like that would be awesome fatzook! |
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| Author: | shiv [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
Thanks Caboose |
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| Author: | Fatzook [ Mon Jul 02, 2012 12:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
Pic modified. There should be a low pressure filter before the first pump. |
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| Author: | shiv [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
can the surge tank be mounted anywhere or should it be a certain place? or height? |
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| Author: | Drova [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
This is my setup, I don't use a lift pump or surge tank Carbie tank ---- low pressure filler -----(edit) external efi pump ----- high pressure filter ---- injector rail (2nd hand feroza efi pump) Installed for over a year, 40000+ km lots of angles, never had a problem |
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| Author: | stockman [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
I ran the coily tank and Vitara pump and it worked fine. A few have used the Vitara tank. |
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| Author: | caboose [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
Closer to the tank is better. Not that it makes a huge difference. Hight doesent matter. Just as long as it is in a place where it can't get hit or knocked off |
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| Author: | shiv [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
cheers caboose thanks |
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| Author: | JrZook [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
Interesting. I just run an inline HP pump mounted on the chassis rails close to the tank and get no cornering surge issues until my tank has <~3L remaining. It's a good indicator as to when you need to find a servo  Offroad on descent angles never had a pickup issue. Then again I never go wheeling with <1/4 of a tank anyway... |
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| Author: | caboose [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
The issue doing it that way. Most of the external pumps don't like pulling fuel out of a tank. Thow they may work. It puts extra stain on the pump. The were designed to have a flooded intake. |
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| Author: | JrZook [ Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Fuel Set ups for a 1.6 efi conversion. |
This is what I've heard and had serve doubts about when I set mine up ie: will have trouble priming/picking up fuel, will be extremely loud and cavitate causing the pump to fail quickly etc. I left the distance for the tank to pump as short as possible to give it a chance. For the 2/3 years I've had the car running I've had no issues with the pump or fueling. The pump I got was also secondhand and used in a previous EFI conversion so it already had a pretty hard life. I've run out of juice and had it low a number of times and it still runs nice and quiet. You can just hear a faint humm from inside the cab when the pump is running, engine off. |
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