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Author:  tonka_tuff [ Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:15 pm ]
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hey people! as the title says.. im thinking of putting a 1L transfer behind my vitara gearbox.. i know im gonna have to make up mounts obviously just want to know how you guys have done them in your sierras etc like how to connect it to the gearbox via jack shaft? i want to put it in my vitara coz the gears are cheaper to buy and they lower my 2wd to tow the camper with 31's on my car.. also im not sure if it will line up with my diff? i could just mover the transfer case to the side? any help would be cool cheers.
Author:  shep [ Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:31 pm ]
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You will have to do something with your rear diff, Sierras have a offset pumpkin and girl cars don't
Author:  ZookFan [ Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:35 pm ]
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:lol:
Author:  tonka_tuff [ Sun Jul 15, 2012 8:37 pm ]
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lol shep you reckon i cant just move the transfer accross?
Author:  shep [ Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:11 pm ]
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tonka_tuff wrote:
lol shep you reckon i cant just move the transfer accross?

Nope.
Author:  missmyljdaze [ Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:04 pm ]
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would a pair of ruddy great CV's in place of uni joints solve the problem?

(dunno if its even practical in this particular case)

stephen
Author:  sideways [ Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:27 pm ]
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shep wrote:
You will have to do something with your rear diff, Sierras have a offset pumpkin and girl cars don't


LJ transfer!
Author:  tonka_tuff [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:43 am ]
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can you get gears for a lj case? or maybe they might be too weak for the Vitara?
Author:  Chop [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 12:18 pm ]
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tonka_tuff wrote:
can you get gears for a lj case? or maybe they might be too weak for the Vitara?


Are't you still reloading alloy diff's into this thing?
Author:  dougies_tx5turbo [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 1:47 pm ]
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There must be away cause MLU did a vit Manual gearbox, transfer and sierra transfer case with a vitara rear diff, not to sure if the sierra underbody is different to the vitara underbody here is the link viewtopic.php?f=7&t=33171

Doug
Author:  Highway-Star [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 5:12 pm ]
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sideways wrote:
shep wrote:
You will have to do something with your rear diff, Sierras have a offset pumpkin and girl cars don't


LJ transfer!




8O
Not sure I'd want to do that with a Vitara... The transfer may last, but even if that is the case, there is so much wrong with it as an option..... lol.






OK, problem with a clocked Sierra transfer (to vertical) would be it still won't line up with your front diff. So you really need transfer with a centered rear output and a right hand drop front output. I don't know of any off hand that have high range reduction..... :?

Or you go with a transfer that has both outputs offset, such as the Sierra, however then I reckon you'd want to do a arse end swap to a diff with an offset centre. Off the top of my head you have:
Sierra is probably going to be too narrow.
Bundera is a tad narrow though probably close to on the money (wrong stud pattern though).
Land Cruiser have a heap of width options (most offset), though still wrong stud pattern and notable clearance loss). Insert MQ troll here too.
Land Rover will be too wide.

If it wasn't road driven you could probably go with a compromised option, but I reckon I'd be unhappy with a road driven car with massive tailshaft angles!
Author:  shandy92 [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:54 pm ]
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mate, if you have a goood search its been talking about it bit. i was considering doing it on mine. the easy bit getting drive from the box, as a sierra jack shaft will bolt up directly to the manual box. the angle from the case to the diffs isnt to bad, a lot of guys in the usa have done this with out issues. with the mounts you need to sort out some how of doing it without disturbing the fuel lines and other lines that run allow the chassis rail. You obviously need to get custom shaft made up to.

You may or may not have to massage the tunnel but it depends on how high you mount it, if the original sierra jack shaft is used them im pretty sure the stick will come through the standard case hole in the floor.

if your after more info, jump on a american site and have a look. they talk about it like we talk about putting 31's on ahah. or just ask

try zukikrawlers.com
Author:  rustyzook [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:17 pm ]
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you could get the adapter off joe, remover the vit tc, get a sierra tc and put 6.5's in it. one stick less fab and still the challenge
Author:  shandy92 [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:41 pm ]
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rustyzook wrote:
you could get the adapter off joe, remover the vit tc, get a sierra tc and put 6.5's in it. one stick less fab and still the challenge

only the auto's need an adapter for the trans to tranfer. unless ur talking about something else???
Author:  Fatzook [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 9:59 pm ]
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shandy92 wrote:
rustyzook wrote:
you could get the adapter off joe, remover the vit tc, get a sierra tc and put 6.5's in it. one stick less fab and still the challenge

only the auto's need an adapter for the trans to tranfer. unless ur talking about something else???



X2. The auto relies on the front input bearing in the t-fer to support the rear of the gearbox main shaft. The manual has a rear mainshaft bearing, and does not require another bearing housing to be fitted.
Author:  tonka_tuff [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:07 pm ]
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thats what i wanted to do but i drive it to work too and if the shafts wont line up then its pointless.. what about a lux transfer?
Author:  sideways [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:26 pm ]
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tonka_tuff wrote:
can you get gears for a lj case? or maybe they might be too weak for the Vitara?


No you can't, though factory 3:1 low on the LJ50 case is nice. :) More or less, there are no aftermarket parts available for LJs. The only stuff that exists can also be used on Sierras.

I was joking BTW, whilst they do have centered outputs I wouldn't trust one behind all that torque. They make Sierra t-cases look huge. Also the flanges are 1l sized so are a pain to sort out for Vit use.
Author:  Fatzook [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:27 pm ]
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Buy an Undertaker.
Author:  tonka_tuff [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:29 pm ]
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yeh i was looking at the under taker.. ill do some home work! thanks guys..
Author:  DarkHorse [ Mon Jul 16, 2012 11:49 pm ]
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Someone has to - we all keep looking at it and none of us follows through with actually buying it!

Depends on the balance of your priorities - costs more than a set of gears for the Vit case (remembering both drive shafts also need to be modded) but drops your high range as well. Which is more important?
Author:  tonka_tuff [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 4:44 pm ]
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yeh i want it to drop my high range to help towing with teh camper trailer (500kg) worth..
Author:  Chop [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:02 pm ]
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tonka_tuff wrote:
yeh i want it to drop my high range to help towing with teh camper trailer (500kg) worth..


I take it that its a braked trailer? Even though the vits are only rated to a 450kg braked.
Author:  joeblow [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:58 pm ]
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Chop wrote:
tonka_tuff wrote:
yeh i want it to drop my high range to help towing with teh camper trailer (500kg) worth..


I take it that its a braked trailer? Even though the vits are only rated to a 450kg braked.



pppfffffft.....like anyone with a roof top tent, huge trailer and overloaded vehicle worries about that stuff!




:roll:
Author:  shandy92 [ Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:15 pm ]
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tonka_tuff wrote:
thats what i wanted to do but i drive it to work too and if the shafts wont line up then its pointless.. what about a lux transfer?


mate the shafts do line up, ill have another look on the forum to show you some pics!
Author:  tonka_tuff [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:46 pm ]
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ok thanks shandy that would be great!

and chop no its not braked.. im guessing the weight will be around the 450-500 mark as its a soild steel trailer and a full size camper on it not these little roof top tents.. lol
Author:  got_bar_work [ Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:42 pm ]
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Off set rear out put will not be any worse then a vit tc
The sierra out put might be to the right but its a lot lower
The vit one comes out the top of the case and has to come down along way
Author:  swifty_ano [ Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:13 am ]
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I went to buy an undertaker the other day











Discontinued!!!! :(
Author:  tanshi [ Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:23 am ]
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build yourself an offset vitara diff. :)
Author:  tanshi [ Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:32 am ]
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on this, does anyone know how long coily axle shafts are?

im sure if you could get the right length axles.

it wouldnt be hard. even full floating the rear and making it offset would make gearing awesome
Author:  swifty_ano [ Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:31 pm ]
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My impression is that if done right, the angle of the driveshaft isn't that bad. well not bad enough for vibrations?
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