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| Author: | suzi-fan-22 [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Sierra at its most practical |
What is the most practical set up for a sierra as in tyre size,suspension setup, etc I want it to be able to tow a trailer around, be a d/d with on road manners (sitting on 110 on slight up hills or drop to around 90 fully loaded is acceptable) but be able to 4x4 without breaking stuff but not being shown up all the time |
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
31's, gearing, 2" springs, lockers and axles. |
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| Author: | jonfromhamilton [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
Sit at 110 up hill? what is this sorcery you speak of ? |
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| Author: | suzi-fan-22 [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
Does ruf give much stability on road? Or is it worse? 6.5 ok for 31's at 110ks? I usually get 100 maybe 95 out of a slight incline with the 1300 and I was thinking about the g16b if it was worth the time and money |
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| Author: | KEENSY85 [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
My g13 would do 120 up a hill past the nudgee cematary in 3rd getting up it but |
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| Author: | JrZook [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
IMO most practical for an all rounder: 235's on 15's, cut outriggers off, very minor guard massaging if any, no bumpstop spacers required (no suspension travel loss). A healthy 1.3 with 4:1 tcase gears Stock reset springs and descent shocks to suit. What you end up with is a very capable rig capable of cruising @110KPH loaded with everything pretty much bolt on, no additional stuffing around. The 235's arn't super big but work well and they don't zap too much off the 1.3 thus your fuel economy doesn't suffer that bad either. If you can drive this setup will go pretty far whilst keeping the vehicle straight. Dan |
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| Author: | suzukikid [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
I always say the most fun I had was in my nt on 30s with front and rear lockers and extended shackles.... |
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| Author: | Brenno [ Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
Mine would be: g16b 4.9 gears 30s 2 inch body rear locker/front airlocker Therefore you should still have capability, power and with the 4.9's you wont be revving to much at 100k's (which in my opinion is the case when running 6.5's and 31's). |
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| Author: | want33s [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
KEENSY85 wrote: My g13 would do 120 up a hill past the nudgee cematary in 3rd getting up it but and I reckon your speedo was telling lies... |
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| Author: | oohsam [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:24 am ] |
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I reckon he was spinning and going nowhere! |
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| Author: | shep [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:49 am ] |
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go hardcore with the sierra and buy a cheap shitbox for DD duties., |
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| Author: | want33s [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
JrZook wrote: 235's on 15's, cut outriggers off, Why are so many people saying to cut the outriggers off? When I first bought Snow White it was a SWB on 31's and while the outriggers and bumper mount brackets had been trimmed a few mm they were definitely still there holding the stocko front bar on. 
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| Author: | jdk81 [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
Sheps comment +1 Best thing I ever did Next easiest solution is to use two sets of tyres. Road tyres and a good set of muddies. Set it up for the muddies, then slap the road tyres on for DD duties. Means you have an aggressive set of muddies, which wont get trashed on daily duties. You can use stockies, but after changing the gearing, you may want something a little bigger. After a while you will get frustrated having bitchin tyres at home and stockies on, so you cant wheel or do other spur of the moment stuff. Thus why I went 31" bighorns to fill an A/T type role, however I found they are a little too big and heavy for high km DD, towing trailers, and being fully loaded etc 235/75 would have been perfect for my current setup. |
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
I barely needed to cut the outriggers off with 31's |
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| Author: | sideways [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
JrZook wrote: 235's on 15's, cut outriggers off, very minor guard massaging if any, no bumpstop spacers required (no suspension travel loss). A healthy 1.3 with 4:1 tcase gears Stock reset springs and descent shocks to suit. x2 + airlocker(s) and barwork, something like an ARB bar with scrub bars, some sliders and a long range tank if you could find one. want33s wrote: JrZook wrote: 235's on 15's, cut outriggers off, Why are so many people saying to cut the outriggers off? When I first bought Snow White it was a SWB on 31's and while the outriggers and bumper mount brackets had been trimmed a few mm they were definitely still there holding the stocko front bar on. On my 1l with 30s (that measure around 29.5") on 15x7 -5 rims this was my untrimmed outrigger clearance, not flexed up but my springs are extremely (as in negative camber) sagged.  And trimmed/smoothed, again not flexed.  I had to install bumpstop spacing to stop the tyre from contacting the trimmed outrigger, though it was pretty much necessary for clearance elsewhere. With 31s on these rims on the 1l, you would need to lose the outriggers. |
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| Author: | alien [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
JrZook wrote: 235's on 15's, A healthy 1.3 with 4:1 tcase gears, Stock reset springs and descent shocks to suit. This - but i'd swap the 1.3 for a 1.6efi, and throw an airlocker in the back for good measure. I'd also have 2 sets of tyres - one set highway tyres, the other some muddies. This way you'll get even better fuel economy for your road driving, and extra life out of the muddies for when you want to go play. |
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| Author: | JrZook [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 12:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
want33s wrote: JrZook wrote: 235's on 15's, cut outriggers off, Why are so many people saying to cut the outriggers off? When I first bought Snow White it was a SWB on 31's and while the outriggers and bumper mount brackets had been trimmed a few mm they were definitely still there holding the stocko front bar on. Are you running BS spacers? And yes I should have said *trim* |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 2:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
sell it buy a vitara |
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| Author: | want33s [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 4:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
JrZook wrote: Are you running BS spacers? And yes I should have said *trim* Wasn't ... NO. Tyres were 31x10.5 on -28 7" rims so had a fair old scrub radius and cleared fine. |
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| Author: | suzi-fan-22 [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 5:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
My outriggers had been removed before I put the cab on. I have 30's on it now with no gearing and I have a daily but I'm only a apprentice and rego and insurance + my other bills are forcing me to only have one car so the zook will be the daily I put this thread up to ask what to strive for with my needs I was just wondering what kind of on road manners does ruf have? Among other things that I may need to ask |
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
I daily drove mine with 31's, 5.14's in the transfer, 3.9 in the diffs, 2" RUF, twin locked with auto rear locker, chromo axles and loved every minute driving it to work and about. On weekends drove it to limits most wouldn't with their daily without dramas. Wouldn't change anything next time. |
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| Author: | Joshyboy26 [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 8:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
I dd mine everyday and wheel the fuck out of it most weekends. I have two sets of tyres its the only way to do it. I have 6.5s so i run 30 AT's on road and i reckon theyre perfect in high range 3700 at 100. Low is prob a bit low but i dont use it with those tyres. Then i have 32 simex centipedes, low range is sick, high is a little tall about 3200 at 100 so it struggles a bit, but i only have those tyres on on the weekend so it doesnt worry me. It takes me 15 mins to change the tyres and i dont fuck my offroad tyres on road and i dont fuck my road tyres offroad. I never worry about mud in the wheels or balancing so i can thrash it on the weekend change my tyres and it still drives beautifully. If i had more casho id add a front locker and chromos but im a poor uni student haha. |
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| Author: | KEENSY85 [ Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
 want33s wrote: KEENSY85 wrote: My g13 would do 120 up a hill past the nudgee cematary in 3rd getting up it but and I reckon your speedo was telling lies... probly was u never realy know sometimes it felt bloody scary and quick. |
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| Author: | 31zook [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
Stock is the best for a DD. |
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| Author: | d1mitch [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 10:09 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
Joshyboy26 wrote: I dd mine everyday and wheel the fuck out of it most weekends. I have two sets of tyres its the only way to do it. I have 6.5s so i run 30 AT's on road and i reckon theyre perfect in high range 3700 at 100. Low is prob a bit low but i dont use it with those tyres. Then i have 32 simex centipedes, low range is sick, high is a little tall about 3200 at 100 so it struggles a bit, but i only have those tyres on on the weekend so it doesnt worry me. It takes me 15 mins to change the tyres and i dont fuck my offroad tyres on road and i dont fuck my road tyres offroad. I never worry about mud in the wheels or balancing so i can thrash it on the weekend change my tyres and it still drives beautifully. If i had more casho id add a front locker and chromos but im a poor uni student haha. do you have different diff gears? 3700rpm at 100 on 30's seems to be low revs for 6.5's most people i have heard from say that the are doing 4000rpm+ doing 100 with 6.5's on 31's |
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| Author: | Joshyboy26 [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 11:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
Nah stock 3.7s. Thats off my gps too. Remember 6.5s are only 20%ish lower in high range which isnt much |
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| Author: | d1mitch [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
ok maybe the other are overestimating their revs or underestimating their speed. personally from the calculations i think 5.14's or maybe even 4.9's would be a better option if you do alot of hwy driving, low range off road reccomends the same aswell |
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 3:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
31zook wrote: Stock is the best for a DD. But he doesnt wanna be shown up all the time haha. Mine was a sick daily. Im gonna build another one. |
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| Author: | got_bar_work [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 4:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
My coily had 31 treps 4.1 case 30mm lift and big guard chop Used it as my work car as a apprentice |
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| Author: | Highway-Star [ Wed Aug 01, 2012 5:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Sierra at its most practical |
I daily'd this for nearly 8 years.  First 2 years were pretty standard. Then it got 31's, and 4.9 TC gears. Then the last few years its had a rear up front, G16 EFI, power steer, 2 air lockers, and chromo front end. I did the 2 tyre sets thing for a while, it gets very old very quick!!!! Find something that works both on and off road and go with that  .Mines currently starting its retirement program. But if I was to do it again with the same requirements (daily driven, and wheeled, and did tow a 6x4 trailer a few times with 4 blokes in the car, There are a few things I would change on top of its last incarnation... - It needs more uptravel, both for on road and off road comfort (my LJ is a million times more comfortable bouncing over rocks), and some more travel would help. Extra travel would be obtained by getting rid of the bump stop extensions, my prefered way to do this would be a savage body chop to allow for tyre clearance. Smaller tyres ( I would never bother with less than a 235/75R15) or a body lift could also achieve a similar outcome, though are not my preferred method. - And Secondly I would never own another soft top, totally over it, tintop or cab chassis for me; this would be quieter and keep more of the blasted rain out. Thats about it. The basic formula works, and there are a heap of small variations on it... |
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