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Author:  rat [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:10 pm ]
Post subject:  2000 GV H25A hesitation/bogging on cold start

Howdy crew,
On a cold startup my GV can sometimes be quite hard to start - up to 5 secs turning over. Once going it will drive fine for around 1-2mins then will bog down like crazy for the next 3-4 mins. It does this EVERY time.
It feels like it is stuck on 1/8 throttle no matter how much you accelerate. Once it clears up the car drives relatively well, but the power delivery is definately not smooth. Feels like a bad flat spot between 2000-3500 rpm.
Probably around 20% of the times it will bring up the engine light for a few minutes pretty much right as it has stopped bogging down. I have taken the car to Automasters to check the engine code checked and they said they couldn't retrieve the code from the computer and it did not do it while it was there over night...

This problem has been hanging around for a while now (6 months-ish) and I have tried a several things to fix it with no success.
- I noticed that a few of the spark plug tubes were filling with oil, so I pulled the engine covers off and resealed.
- Changed spark plugs.
- Changed lead/coil assembly's.
- Changed fuel filter.
- Cleaned AFM.

I'm pulling my hair out. Thinking next thing to try is changing the TPS... Thoughts??

Thanks for any help guys!!
Damo

Author:  JrZook [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 GV H25A hesitation/bogging on cold start

What's the fuel pressure like?

Author:  rat [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 GV H25A hesitation/bogging on cold start

I might have to try and stick a gauge on to check... Thinking of running a bottle of injector fluid through too.

Author:  atari4x4 [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 GV H25A hesitation/bogging on cold start

there is a link in this thread on how to pull the codes at home + a list of codes 4 the H25a viewtopic.php?f=5&t=31555&hilit=j20a+error+codes

Author:  rat [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:18 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 GV H25A hesitation/bogging on cold start

atari4x4 wrote:
there is a link in this thread on how to pull the codes at home + a list of codes 4 the H25a viewtopic.php?f=5&t=31555&hilit=j20a+error+codes


Brilliant!! Thanks for that! Just to clarify, the engine light doesn't have to be on whilst driving for you to check the code? You can just check it with the car off?

Author:  atari4x4 [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 GV H25A hesitation/bogging on cold start

engine light doesn't have to be lit to get the code, as long as you haven't disconnected the battery the ECU will store the codes from the last time it was cleared.

car stationary, ignition off, bridge the terminals on the diagnostic plug, ignition to "on" but not running & it should start spitting out codes.

Author:  thesupervisor [ Mon Aug 06, 2012 11:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 GV H25A hesitation/bogging on cold start

if you get stuck try efi austos in balcatta
http://www.efiautos.com.au/
they have been very helpful to me in the past

Author:  fordem [ Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 GV H25A hesitation/bogging on cold start

atari4x4 wrote:
engine light doesn't have to be lit to get the code, as long as you haven't disconnected the battery the ECU will store the codes from the last time it was cleared.

car stationary, ignition off, bridge the terminals on the diagnostic plug, ignition to "on" but not running & it should start spitting out codes.


As far as I know, if the Check Engine Light isn't set (on with the engine running), using a jumper won't show any codes - the ECU does store old codes, but a code reader is required to see them.

Author:  rat [ Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 GV H25A hesitation/bogging on cold start

Yes it does actually! Just checked the error codes and it came back with "13".

DETECTING ITEM: H02S-1 no activity detected
DETECTING CONDITION: Output voltage of H02S-1 fails to go above specification (or H02S-1 circuit shorted to ground)

Does this mean I need to replace the 02 Sensor/s?

Cheers!!

Author:  atari4x4 [ Wed Aug 08, 2012 9:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 GV H25A hesitation/bogging on cold start

yeah, i was 100% sure that it will hold the error code til cleared.

smash in a couple of o2 sensors & report back :wink:

gregdixon has a parts listing for a NTK o2 sensor for the GV in this thread viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4864&hilit=o2+sensor

Quote:
OE sensor for V6 GV is a NTK (Same company who make NGK spark plugs) OZA 536-J1 this has been superseded by OZA 495-J2 ($85.60 veale auto parts)

Author:  rat [ Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 GV H25A hesitation/bogging on cold start

Awesome mate, thanks so much for the quick reply's. Will be on to Veales first thing in the morn!

Author:  atari4x4 [ Wed Aug 08, 2012 10:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 GV H25A hesitation/bogging on cold start

no drama's.... AZ is awesome to pass the time on bludgernoon shift.




























AZ fuckyeah Armsup

Author:  twitchy [ Thu Aug 09, 2012 10:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 GV H25A hesitation/bogging on cold start

I'm a tad late but that is pretty much what mine did......... 02 sensors mate & ya will be stoked, mines goin like a cut cat again now.

Author:  rat [ Sun Aug 19, 2012 4:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 GV H25A hesitation/bogging on cold start

Replaced the O2 sensors, absolute beauty! Thanks again for the help!

Author:  gregdixon [ Mon Aug 20, 2012 6:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 GV H25A hesitation/bogging on cold start

Did veale say they had a few available? The silver car is due for some

Author:  rat [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 11:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 GV H25A hesitation/bogging on cold start

They didn't mention, cant say it would be hard to get a few.

Author:  gregdixon [ Thu Aug 23, 2012 4:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: 2000 GV H25A hesitation/bogging on cold start

The guys over here made a song and dance about how hard they were to get that's all.

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