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Author:  buzbox [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:39 pm ]
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Well that sucks... Is the first thing I said when a head bolt had rounded. And of course, It's the last one I need to take off before removing the head and take the block in to get worked on.

I don't think Easy outs would be the answer for this one, I don't think a larger sized hex driver bashed in place would work either, It's waay to tight for the grinder, A bolt welded to it wouldn't be strong enough to remove it.

The only thing I can think of it drill out the head of the bolt, Or take it into the engine reco guy's and say, here you go.

Any ideas?

Author:  JrZook [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:40 pm ]
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Had one like that. Ended up just drilling the head off.

Author:  shep [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:48 pm ]
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Use a single hex socket.

Author:  buzbox [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:53 pm ]
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shep wrote:
Use a single hex socket.


Yep that's what I have and used, but no luck, It's well rounded.

Author:  ball [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:20 pm ]
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get a big nut (7/8 or 1 inch) and bash it over the rounded head. Weld nut to bolt and let cool completely before trying to remove.

Author:  atari4x4 [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:21 pm ]
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sounds like a good excuse to buy more tools.

http://www.bestpricepowerhandtoolsonsal ... r_Base_Set
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Author:  Built4thrashing [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:16 pm ]
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they look interesting

Author:  atari4x4 [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:34 pm ]
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i've seen them work on the most rooted bolt head you could imagine, a good option if you don't have easy access to a welder to give balls technique a go.

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Author:  superduki [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:46 pm ]
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atari4x4 wrote:
i've seen them work on the most rooted bolt head you could imagine, a good option if you don't have easy access to a welder to give balls technique a go.

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Yep we use the Irwin brand ones at work all the time. Works 9/10 times. Still amazes me how they grip so well!

Author:  Joe [ Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:03 pm ]
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atari4x4 wrote:
i've seen them work on the most rooted bolt head you could imagine, a good option if you don't have easy access to a welder to give balls technique a go.

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Pretty sure Ninjamoses used one of them on the motor he was pulling down and it worked for him

Author:  KEENSY85 [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 2:57 am ]
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atari4x4 wrote:
sounds like a good excuse to buy more tools.

http://www.bestpricepowerhandtoolsonsal ... r_Base_Set
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:shocked: nice

Author:  royce [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:27 am ]
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The socket head bolts? get something sharp in and clean all the shit out of it and youll get some fresh hex to work on, bash the bit in with a hammer

Author:  ninjamoses [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:15 am ]
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atari4x4 wrote:
i've seen them work on the most rooted bolt head you could imagine, a good option if you don't have easy access to a welder to give balls technique a go.


x50000000

Joe wrote:
Pretty sure Ninjamoses used one of them on the motor he was pulling down and it worked for him


Certainly did, was in the same situation as you buzbox. Last head bolt refused to budge even with a single hex impact socket etc. Irwell bolt grip in a rattle gun had it off in 2 seconds flat. Almost laughable how easy it was. Got mine from bunnings, think the 5 pack goes for about $50. I've been meaning to go buy the second half of them so I have the full set as they are that awesome.

Author:  buzbox [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:39 am ]
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thanks heaps guys.

I'm sure bunnings won't stock them, but I'll pop out to my faviroute specialised tool shop in my lunch break, If that doesn't work I'll definitly give it the balls technique.

At least it's something Ii'll most probably use again.

Author:  atari4x4 [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:49 am ]
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my 2 local bunnings stock them.

Author:  Scales [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:05 am ]
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i got a set of irwans too, best sockets ever!
bought the "base" set from mitre 10, and ordered the add-on pack from amazon.com after i discovered how awesome they are. (the whole set is in 2 different packs, as you can see in the pic with the case, the cardboard bit comes out with room for another 5 sockets)

Author:  jdk81 [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:55 pm ]
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After reading this thread, with so many reviews Im thinking of giving these a whirl.

http://www.irwin.com/tools/screw-bolt-e ... strial-set

Now i'll just try to find the best price.

Author:  defibros [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:44 pm ]
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Any tools or ways to remove a rounded front diff nut?

Author:  abclarke [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:48 pm ]
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You talking about the plugs?

Author:  defibros [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:02 pm ]
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Yeah my front diff drain plug is rounded . Any tips ?

abclarke wrote:
You talking about the plugs?

Author:  Zook_Fan [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:13 pm ]
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Before you attack the drain plug get the fill plug out first. Not being able to drain the diff can be a pain, not being able to fill it means the car is stationary. The fill plug you pretty much have to weld a nut too. You don't have much option because there is nothing to grip.

Author:  defibros [ Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:55 pm ]
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Thanks for the tips . I don't have much options do I :(

Zook_Fan wrote:
Before you attack the drain plug get the fill plug out first. Not being able to drain the diff can be a pain, not being able to fill it means the car is stationary. The fill plug you pretty much have to weld a nut too. You don't have much option because there is nothing to grip.

Author:  zukmeista [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:01 am ]
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Try this idea-http://auszookers.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=6789

Author:  buzbox [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:48 am ]
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defibros wrote:
Yeah my front diff drain plug is rounded . Any tips ?

abclarke wrote:
You talking about the plugs?



The thing I would do is drill a hole and use an easy out. I've tried the chisel technique on a diff plug before without good results.

Also I bought those threaded bolt sockets, It gripped quite well but it just couldn't quite shift the head bolt (or I was being too lenient) So I just took it into the engine reco place for them to deal with before I did more damage. :(

Author:  sando [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:46 pm ]
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defibros wrote:
Yeah my front diff drain plug is rounded . Any tips ?

abclarke wrote:
You talking about the plugs?


As already stated make sure you can get the fill open. With the drain buy a new plug as the one in there will be stuffed. I presume your drain requires a 3/8drive extension to undo it? If it does then go to supercrap and buy a crappy short extension. If you are good with a welder then weld the extension in, allow for it to fully cool then get a ratchet and undo it. The heat from the weld will loosen it.

Author:  atari4x4 [ Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:03 pm ]
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sando wrote:
defibros wrote:
Yeah my front diff drain plug is rounded . Any tips ?

abclarke wrote:
You talking about the plugs?


As already stated make sure you can get the fill open. With the drain buy a new plug as the one in there will be stuffed. I presume your drain requires a 10mm square drive to undo it? If it does then go to supercrap and buy a crappy short extension. If you are good with a welder then weld the extension in, allow for it to fully cool then get a ratchet and undo it. The heat from the weld will loosen it.


fixed...

using a 3/8th drive in the drain plug is why it's been rounded out

Author:  TheOtherLeft [ Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:05 pm ]
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buzbox wrote:
defibros wrote:
Yeah my front diff drain plug is rounded . Any tips ?

abclarke wrote:
You talking about the plugs?



The thing I would do is drill a hole and use an easy out. I've tried the chisel technique on a diff plug before without good results.

Also I bought those threaded bolt sockets, It gripped quite well but it just couldn't quite shift the head bolt (or I was being too lenient) So I just took it into the engine reco place for them to deal with before I did more damage. :(


This might work for diff plugs:

http://www.irwin.com/tools/screw-bolt-extractors/hex-head-multi-spline-screw-extractors-522532-series

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