didn't steaky talk about a double stacked rear mains
i miss Mr Knife
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| Author: | deep-six [ Sun Sep 16, 2012 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | ongoing Oil Leak Saga |
Have been holding off on re-visiting my oil leak problem with my 89 1.6 Vitara but just can't wait any longer. Oil is leaking past the crank seal. I replaced the seal some months back and figured that would be the end of it. Not so, it has continued to leak not less but even more than before. This prompted me to question whether the crank seal was actually the fault so I stripped it back down, degreased everything and sure enough the oil is getting past the crank seal. Last time I replaced the seal with a NOK seal. This time I have ordered a genuine Suzuki seal but now delving deeper into the problem I see there is a groove in the crank where the seal runs. This is not totally unexpected and explains the failure to stem the flow of crude from my last effort. Now, to my question. I figure a speedy sleeve is the answer to my problem, however it was pointed out to me its going to be difficult, if not impossible to remove the sleeves installation shoulder once it is tapped into place on the crank. There is very little room to access inside the cavity so I'm wondering how to get around this problem. Any ideas guys???? |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ongoing Oil Leak Saga |
didn't steaky talk about a double stacked rear mains i miss Mr Knife
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| Author: | 303zuke [ Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ongoing Oil Leak Saga |
Leave the installation shoulder in place. If it is small enough to fit inside the seal cavity, it won't foul on the bearing cap. It won't matter if the Speedi-Sleeve is not fully within the seal housing, just as long as it doesn't sit proud and prevent the flywheel seating properly. When you fit the Speedi-Sleeve, use a light smear of liquid metal or similar so that oil doesn't seep under the sleeve. Even threadlocker will make it oil-tight. |
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| Author: | Scrawny [ Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ongoing Oil Leak Saga |
^^^^^ What he said |
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| Author: | deep-six [ Sun Sep 16, 2012 7:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ongoing Oil Leak Saga |
Thanks guys Should have mentioned, its the front crank seal that is leaking. But will check if the speedy sleeve will work here with shoulder intact. Just a thought, is it possible to install the speedy sleeve backwards leaving the shoulder on the outside?? |
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| Author: | 303zuke [ Sun Sep 16, 2012 10:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ongoing Oil Leak Saga |
deep-six wrote: Thanks guys Just a thought, is it possible to install the speedy sleeve backwards leaving the shoulder on the outside?? I doubt it. The installation shoulder is designed to pull the sleeve across the surface rather than drag it. If there is any sort of microscopic lip or ledge where the groove has worn, the sleeve can snag when being pushed on and scrunch up. Pulling it across the groove applies an even tension. Think of it like putting a sock on your foot. Is it easier to pull the sock on from the top, or pushing it on from the toe end? |
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| Author: | Daz7 [ Mon Sep 17, 2012 10:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ongoing Oil Leak Saga |
Can you reposition the seal a little further in so it runs on an area thats not scored? |
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| Author: | deep-six [ Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: ongoing Oil Leak Saga |
Follow up on the OIl Leak Saga OK, for anyone who needs to do this job happy to say it all worked out well. The speedy sleeve (Part number 99128 "1.257-1.263" National brand) fit perfectly, there was just enough clearance for the shoulder to fit inside without interference. A small problem that I found was the installation cup they supply with the sleeve was too shallow to allow it to drive the sleeve in. I started searching for a piece of pipe to drive the sleeve but gave up because the pipe that I found was too thick in the wall. Went back to plan B, cut the end out of the installer so it would fit over the front stepped down part of the crank, made sure to leave a small amount of shoulder on the installer, then found a deep socket to drive the installer which then drove the speedy sleeve on. One other issue was the seal was difficult to install, the shaft was not proud enough to allow the inner part of the seal to go on first and both inner and outer hit at the same time, after a couple of attempts where the tension spring fell off I changed tactic and used a small flat blade screwdriver to gently coax the inner lip over the shaft and all was good. So far all is good, at this stage there is no puddle of oil under the front of my Vitara so I am happy. |
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