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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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What are peoples thoughts on optimum gearing for a auto Sierra? I have bits in the shed to make it 2920 rpm@100kph or 3854rpm@100kph but would've nothing inbetween. Also the higher revs are Toyota diffs and I would prefer to avoid them for now. Just remembered I do have a few sets of vit 5.12 diff gears but they would make it rev way to much.
What sort of revs should I aim for keeping in mind that it is a auto and I am building it to be a off road tourer an it will be on the heavy side.
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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 Posted: Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:04 am |
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That is with 33s. If I go back to 31s it is 3111 rpm@100kph
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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Although you don't have any, I'd consider 4;6 Vitara diff gears. More common and cheaper, because they haven't been scrounged by a billion Sierra owners. And I believe they are a lot tougher, but I'm no engineer.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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Really Chris? I'd like to find your source of plentiful 4.6's. Only carby auto vitaras had them and two carby autos have to get wrecked for one sierra.
Shep- I reckon both options are crook. I reckon you need to be 3300-3600 rpm
2900 is too low for the weight and profile of your car. 4k is too high.
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jdk81
Joined: Sat Jul 18, 2009 11:30 pm Posts: 2372 Location: Ballarat, VIC
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I'm watching intently for experienced input, as I am looking at this situation too.
g16b max torque is 4000 rpm stock vit is 3000 rpm at 100km/h
aw4 is 1st 2.826 2nd 1.493 3rd 1.000 4th 0.730 5th N.A. Rev 2.703 High range 1:1, low 1.816:1 Diff 5.12
I was sort of looking at (sierra 6.4 gears, and aw4, 33 tyres)
3900 rpm with 5.12 diffs 3500 rpm with 4.6 diffs (can buy these from LROR too). 3300 rpm with 4.3 diffs 3000 rpm with 3.9 diffs 2900 rpm with 3.7 diffs I'm probably going the 4.6 diff gears, as 4.3 would be too hard to find. But id love experienced input, especially about heat generated at cruising if it doesnt lock out etc
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atari4x4

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Joined: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:30 pm Posts: 34842 Location: East Radelayed
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Gwagensteve wrote: Really Chris? I'd like to find your source of plentiful 4.6's. Only carby auto vitaras had them and two carby autos have to get wrecked for one sierra. Manual SV420's have 4.6's 
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christover1

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Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:30 pm Posts: 8203 Location: Melbourne
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atari4x4 wrote: Gwagensteve wrote: Really Chris? I'd like to find your source of plentiful 4.6's. Only carby auto vitaras had them and two carby autos have to get wrecked for one sierra. Manual SV420's have 4.6's  Thats a relief, couldn't remember where else they hide. Also 4.3's out of the GV steel diffs we Vitara drivers steel, may be useful?
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shep
Joined: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:30 pm Posts: 14498 Location: Here there everywhere
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So if I go g16, 4 speed auto, 6.5 transfer gear and 4.3 diffs for 3396rpm & 100kph I should be about right.
What are my chances of finding a pair of 4.3 r&p to fit Sierra diffs? 4.3 is easy to find for my Toyota diffs but I would rather stay suzuki.
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atari4x4

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every manual V6 GV front from memory... 98-06ish
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303zuke

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jdk81 wrote: 3500 rpm with 4.6 diffs (can buy these from LROR too). Just be aware that Vit, or genuine Suzuki 4.6 diffs are 4.625, while the LROR (or US aftermarket) are 4.556. Close enough to roughly call both 4.6, but different enough to cause problems if you mix and match. You must run 2x 4.625 diffs, OR 2x 4.556 diffs or risk transfer case wind-up which can shear the engagement dogs on the front output gear.
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