I have 2 original chassis crossmembers requested by engineer to keep it away from an ICV. Only 1 is technically required in links above.
Id say mine would be significantly modified.
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| Author: | DarkHorse [ Thu Nov 01, 2012 11:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | NSW NCOP Info |
Hey all, Just following up all the Qld-based discussion of the new vehicle modification rules, I wanted to start a thread to share info on the NSW adoption of the NCOP, variations to it, certification information, etc. To start off, here is the VSCCS (Vehicle Safety Compliance Certification Scheme - just for the sake of another ridiculous acronym) http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... _final.pdf Bulletin 1, which lists the engineers that can certify mods under the new scheme: http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... tin_01.pdf (thankfully for me John at Consulmotive is still on the list. Highly recommended as a first port of call to discuss what you want to do.) or a fancy map version to find one close to you: http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... ccs/vsccs/ Some Q&A guff about the new scheme: http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... cs_qa.html Interesting bits include: Quote: Vehicle standards in NSW are unchanged. Quote: RMS will be publishing a list of significant modifications that require inspection and certification. (still can't actually find this anywhere, but haven't looked that hard yet.)Quote: From 20 June 2012, if you have not presented your certificate to a motor registry you will need to get a VSCCS compliance certificate. The RTA summary of the meeting at Eastern Creek a while back (there was a thread on it from the NSW Suzuki 4WD Club): http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... eek-qa.pdf The actual Vehicle Standards Regulation (proper law stuff): http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/viewt ... gistration)%20Act%201997%20No%20119 Some info and links on ADRs: http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/ ... index.aspx VSB14 that became the NCOP: http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/ ... _ncop.aspx General info on mods, bit outdated now: http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... dards.html |
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| Author: | BlueSuzy [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NSW NCOP Info |
We don't have it in practice yet. Everything you have put up is guide only. viewtopic.php?f=28&t=30640 Every engineer has their own take on modifying. So one thing that may not be passed, may be passed through another depending if they know more about the mod etc. There is no date yet for NSW when if/when rules change. |
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| Author: | DarkHorse [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 4:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NSW NCOP Info |
Yep, and doesn't actually tell us anything. VSCCS seems like it's just a name change (like rebranding the RTA to RMS.) I've seen a couple of bit of guff that say "Vehicle standards in NSW are unchanged" - but there is still no actual list published (that I can find anyway) of modifications that require certification. Here's a list published on NO2VSCCS that was apparently discussed: https://sites.google.com/site/no2vsccs/ ... akeholders (Engine conversions/upgrades, axle swaps, gearing changes, 50mm+ lift, 25mm+ track width, 26mm+ tyres, brake upgrades, wheelbase changes, body lifts, seats) But this has never been included in RMS documents. The old LVCOP no longer applies, but there's nothing in the legislation to replace it. What we now have is the national VSB14/NCOP (linked above) but not the NSW amendments that were discussed (VSI 59.) The only other reference for standards is the ADRs, which are obviously not practical for our purposes, but here for reference anyway: http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/ ... nline.aspx Applicability summary: http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/ ... _Group.pdf Tim is your build being certified as 'significantly modified' or as an ICV? |
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| Author: | BlueSuzy [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 6:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NSW NCOP Info |
I have 2 original chassis crossmembers requested by engineer to keep it away from an ICV. Only 1 is technically required in links above. Id say mine would be significantly modified.
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| Author: | Daz7 [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 7:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NSW NCOP Info |
Still lots of discussion happening with the RMS so all of this is still up in the air. From what I hear things are sounding promising. |
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| Author: | BlueSuzy [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NSW NCOP Info |
Daz7 wrote: Still lots of discussion happening with the RMS so all of this is still up in the air. From what I hear things are sounding promising. Promising for? Are you for tighter restrictions or as they are? I'm for as they are. Better testing to prove things are achievable with modifications |
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| Author: | DarkHorse [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 10:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NSW NCOP Info |
That's my hope - I need a bunch of stuff added to my cert now, and I'm a bit nervous they won't get passed if things tighten up. |
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| Author: | BlueSuzy [ Fri Nov 02, 2012 11:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NSW NCOP Info |
DarkHorse wrote: That's my hope - I need a bunch of stuff added to my cert now, and I'm a bit nervous they won't get passed if things tighten up. Get it done! Like my zook, should of been done before all this shit started. |
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| Author: | Daz7 [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 8:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NSW NCOP Info |
BlueSuzy wrote: Daz7 wrote: Still lots of discussion happening with the RMS so all of this is still up in the air. From what I hear things are sounding promising. Promising for? Are you for tighter restrictions or as they are? I'm for as they are. Better testing to prove things are achievable with modifications Promising for a better outcome for vehicle enthusiasts in general. With what I've heard you'd be happy with the outcomes so far. I'm not directly involved so would prefer not to say anything in case I get things wrong. |
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| Author: | BlueSuzy [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NSW NCOP Info |
Yeah i understand. I just hope the RMS/ Roads minister is as genuine as he seems. 
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| Author: | 303zuke [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 10:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NSW NCOP Info |
BlueSuzy wrote: I just hope the RMS/ Roads minister is as genuine as he seems. SHE. The Minister's name is Gladys!  The Gay fella just builds the roads and infrastructure, while Gladys deals with Licensing, Registration and Traffic laws. |
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| Author: | BlueSuzy [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 11:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NSW NCOP Info |
Then why was he the main man at the VSCCS? ! |
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| Author: | DarkHorse [ Sat Nov 03, 2012 3:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: NSW NCOP Info |
That is odd - Gay is Roads and Ports, so assumedly the RMS is his baby. I thought Transport was more about rail and public transport? EDIT: did some digging, and in typical pubic service style the RMS is listed under Roads and Ports (Gay) and also under Transport for NSW, which in turn is listed under Transport (Berejiklian). Fucken Gumbyment. |
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