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Who have used a MAZDA 323 1.6Lt Dizzy cap n rotor in SIERRA?
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Author:  MADSUZU [ Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Who have used a MAZDA 323 1.6Lt Dizzy cap n rotor in SIERRA?
As the title suggests.

Has anyone done a MK1/2/3 conversion using the Dizzy cap and rotor button off a Mazda 323 GTX 1.6L turbo 1989 model?

I want to know if you had any isseus with it?

Apparently You can use the GTi rotor button with the 323 Cap?

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Apparently the dizzy cap and rotor button comes off a 88/89 Madza 323 GTX, hoever for this to fit you will have to remove out the cap about 2mm where it sits on the GTi dizzy, for the rotor you will need take out the centre piece of the GTi rotor (the metal piece) and get that in the madza rotor????????. . .piece of cake.


What does he mean by this exactly?
Can someone please help?
Author:  Damo [ Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:43 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Who have used a MAZDA 323 1.6Lt Dizzy cap n rotor in SIE
Chinny is the man

Chinny's build
Author:  MADSUZU [ Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Who have used a MAZDA 323 1.6Lt Dizzy cap n rotor in SIE
This guy used the MAZDA 323 cap but with the GTi rotor?
Im still unsure what he means by the bit highlighted in bold..

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Ignition Modification:
I used a fairly simple set up for mine. A Mazda 323 GTX cap and a stock GTI rotor. Looking at the 323 cap you will notice it has no spring loaded center brush. I drilled out the 323's center brush deep enough for the center brush with the spring from the Samurai cap to fit in it. Again be careful doing this. I did it a little at a time until it was perfect. The reason I chose to do this instead of putting a spring on the rotor was simply because I didn't want to mess with anything that moves. The rotor is spinning pretty fast in there when the engine is running and I didn't want to risk anything vibrating loose. The cap ends up looking like this when the engine is in. The only thing that touches the firewall is the little dust cap as you can see.

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Author:  MADSUZU [ Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Who have used a MAZDA 323 1.6Lt Dizzy cap n rotor in SIE
Damo wrote:
Chinny is the man

Chinny's build


Damo.. chinny didnt use the 323 cap and / or 323/gti rotor button!!
Author:  Damo [ Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Who have used a MAZDA 323 1.6Lt Dizzy cap n rotor in SIE
MADSUZU wrote:
Damo wrote:
Chinny is the man

Chinny's build


Damo.. chinny didnt use the 323 cap and / or 323/gti rotor button!!


According to page 3 of the thread I linked he did. Unless he's changed things since then, but I don't think he has.

Here is another linkhere

What's the problem you're having???
Author:  MADSUZU [ Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Who have used a MAZDA 323 1.6Lt Dizzy cap n rotor in SIE
Yeah sorry your correct however my distributer is different to his (well certainly looks different. MY 323 gtx rotor cap wont go fully on it seems the the MK1 dizzy shaft.

Problem im having is trying to get a rotor button to adapt to the cap.
Author:  Damo [ Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Who have used a MAZDA 323 1.6Lt Dizzy cap n rotor in SIE
What rotor button are you trying to use?

I'm sure I read somewhere that the cap doesn't go straight on, it needs a little trimming/clearancing. EDIT: Chinney mentions that the shaft has been trimmed 4mm, perhaps that is to avoid the problem you are having

What dizzy do you have, Mk. 1?
Author:  Chinny [ Thu Jan 08, 2009 11:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Who have used a MAZDA 323 1.6Lt Dizzy cap n rotor in SIE
got pics?
Author:  MADSUZU [ Fri Jan 09, 2009 12:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Who have used a MAZDA 323 1.6Lt Dizzy cap n rotor in SIE
Yeah MK1 Dizzy. Ill be playing with it this weekend and ill take some photos and post them up ASAP.

Im using the Mazda 323 GTX Cap on a MK1 GTI Dizzy and a Mazda 323 GTX Rotor button to suit. However the MK1 Distributer itself needs the shaft (that joins off the camshaft for where the rotor button sits) needs to be about 4mm longer so to speak.

Im not real sure what chinnys idea was with trimming the shaft 4mm? Seems odd!

Im thinking of adapating the MK1 GTi rotor button to the 323 Cap and see how i go there...
Author:  MADSUZU [ Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Who have used a MAZDA 323 1.6Lt Dizzy cap n rotor in SIE
WEll i couldnt adapat the GTi rotor button to the dizzy cap so i ended up adapting the 323 rotor button with the 323 dizzy cap and guess what :) It worked. Fitso nthe shaft nice and snug! Although it looks kind of dodgey the wya ive grinded back bits of the plastic it doesnt reallyt effect it it in the way it operates at all.

The rotor button fit onteh shaft with only like 1mm clearnace to the Electrical cap for the dizzy compenents.

I also trimmed back the plastic as seen in these photos so the rotor button sitted cleanly on the shaft. Only possible issue i might have is with the distance between the rotor button centre metal piece thingy and the dizzy caps centre button. Its about 5mm gap. However at full throttle whilst driving the car drives fine and doesnt miss fire or play up at all etc..

So the parts i used were:
- Mazda 323 1988 1.6L GTX rotor button $12.00
- Mazda 323 1988 1.6L GTX Distributer Cap $30.00-$54.00 dependsin where you get it from
So REALISTICALLY this is a much cheaper option then a $300 angle Drive kit!!
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