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ms1991

Joined: Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:49 am
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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:17 pm

Hey guys!

Was just thinking of fabbing up a half cage for my soft top vitara (fibreglass top fitted)..Im thinking the standard sorta hoop over the head from pillar to pillar and then two supports going back...

What type of tube would i need for this? I only have a cheap bender that can bend upto two inches in diametre..Its not going to be for competition use or anything, just for a little bit more protection if anything was to ever happen..has to be stronger than the standard hoop above my head made from sheet metal right?

lol

So what do ya rekon guys?

Parry

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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:07 pm

Something with a decent wall thickness that ur bender can bend nicely, u tried bending 90 degrees with it? I know cheap benders n pipe don't go so well!

ms1991

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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:42 pm

yeah mate i have, if the wall thickness is good it goes alright..

Im gonna go for some seamless mild steel 2.6mm thick.

pezz

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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 6:58 pm

Biggest thing for good bends is matched tube and die size, and a nice smooth die

shakes

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Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:24 pm

hillbilly wrote:

i think any soft top thats out there on the tracks needs some improvement on the factory setup......i rolled in early november (3 1/2 times)....my navy is still in hospital.......so any effort of a roll cage is better than nothing

Until you smack your head into the cage, because it wasn't designed properly.

got_bar_work

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:05 am

32nb med wall pipe would do
do u have rear seats in
a cros brace will make it heaps stronger

ms1991

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 5:14 am

Shakes, I agree. Although if someone's silly enough not to consider that in the design stage then maybe they deserve a good knock on the head.

I still want to be able to put my front seats all the way down, no rear seats are fitted. What's people's thoughts on a removable cross brace?

Fatzook

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:58 am

ms1991 wrote:

. What's people's thoughts on a removable cross brace?

Doable.

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just_cruizin

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:15 am

Pete's photos show special weld on fittings that are solid and semi-cylindrical that are together with the bolt.

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31zook wrote:

Makes me want something similar

atari4x4

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:24 am

are there caps for those tube joiners for when the brace is removed, as they look very ouchy, sharp & kind of close to rusho's head?

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Gwagensteve

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:27 am

atari4x4 wrote:

are there caps for those tube joiners for when the brace is removed, as they look very ouchy, sharp & kind of close to rusho's head?

X2.

Steve.

tanshi

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 11:30 am

can those joiners be purchased from some where?

Would be interesting to see if side intrusion bars could be put in with them

its ok i googled.

"roll cage tube clamps"

Gwagensteve

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 12:03 pm

I think door bars and removable elements to gain access for engine removal are the normal uses of those couplers.

Steve

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:38 pm

Gwagensteve wrote:

atari4x4 wrote:

are there caps for those tube joiners for when the brace is removed, as they look very ouchy, sharp & kind of close to rusho's head?

X2.

Steve.

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tanshi

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:52 pm

whered ya purchase from Pete

Red89

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:06 pm

Lowrange do some.

tanshi

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:09 pm

they do too!. really should have known that. how do they go with being chromo and welding these up to CDS?

ms1991

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 3:59 pm

Dont think I'll be making one guys... found some scrap 32nb gal tube.. 2.6mm thick.. cheap bender kinked it bad..I cant afford a good bender either so it'll have to stay cageless for now!

tanshi

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 4:07 pm

Fin some one to bend up the tube to your specs.

I got a local shop to bend mine up for $10 per bend

Red89

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 6:46 pm

tanshi wrote:

they do too!. really should have known that. how do they go with being chromo and welding these up to CDS?

According to google its best being TIG'd using the appropriate filler.

Fatzook

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Posted: Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:08 pm

Red89 wrote:

tanshi wrote:

they do too!. really should have known that. how do they go with being chromo and welding these up to CDS?

According to google its best being TIG'd using the appropriate filler.

TIG'd using 4xxx filler. Welded nicely to the 350_CDS. They are similar metals, so why would there be an issue?

Both caps and clamps were machined here. I'll be selling them in the new year.

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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:36 am

What sort of price will they be pete?

Fatzook

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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:53 am

mrw82 wrote:

What sort of price will they be pete?

Hopefully around $35ea. for 1.75" tube.

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tanshi

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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 7:40 am

sign me up!!

some removable door bars in the ute would be awesome

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Posted: Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:09 am

Sounds good.

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