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Author:  broken zook [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:41 pm ]
Post subject:  coil conversion or 3+4 link on my stockmann
Gday everyone asking a dumb question here. Been thinking about building my stockmann into a winch comp truck
What's better 3 link up front and a 4 link in rear or doing a coil conversion??????
Author:  appsie [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:58 pm ]
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where are you located?
do you mean for doing? or or doing?
Author:  want33s [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 7:59 pm ]
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Check the comp's rules first.
Author:  broken zook [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:23 pm ]
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Appsie in in deception bay north side of Brisbane.

Just need to know witch one works better and is cheaper.
Author:  atari4x4 [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:26 pm ]
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pretty sure it would be 6 of 1 1/2 a dozen of the other...

3 link you'll still need a panhard so you're going to have the same number of links as a triangulated 4 link.
Author:  31zook [ Thu Jan 17, 2013 9:29 pm ]
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You do realize that to run coils you will need to link it also...
Author:  pezz [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:17 am ]
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31zook wrote:
You do realize that to run coils you will need to link it also...



Thats what i though when i read the o.p.

But then i thought,
Maybe he might go with coils and torque tubes
Author:  SierraDan [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:26 am ]
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Can be linked on leaf springs :thefinger:
Author:  pezz [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:39 am ]
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SierraDan wrote:
Can be linked on leaf springs :thefinger:



I actually like this option.. two main reasons

Spring rates can be adjusted easy....... and cheaply

But most importantly, it looks ultra cool 80's style
Author:  broken zook [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 11:24 am ]
Post subject:  Re: coil conversion or 3+4 link on my stockmann
Thanks for the input people.

Is there anyone on the north side of bris that could give
Me a hand.
Think i might go coil.
Author:  Red89 [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 12:56 pm ]
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So how are you going to attach the diffs to the car ?
Author:  broken zook [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:37 pm ]
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Gents ya talking to a newbie hear. Just asking for advice and a how to
I want it to look like it came of the factory floor. Also need to know what parts
Do I need and who could do it for me.

Probably looking at a 3-4 inch lift so any help would be greatly appreciated
Please keep the laughing to a min
Author:  Red89 [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 2:55 pm ]
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No one is laughing, to coil convert a car you need to link it there is no either or. You will need either a 3 link or a 4 link or a 5 link or a radious arm setup.
Author:  broken zook [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: coil conversion or 3+4 link on my stockmann
Sorry about the laughing coment haven't sleept in a few days. Ok
I am going radus ARM setup I think its ok for winch comp use.
What parts Do i need to do the conversion
Author:  atari4x4 [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:22 pm ]
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broken zook, do you have a brother in WA named jake?

what sort of comps do you plan on doing, it's going to be hard to make it look 100% factory fitted & be comp ready but i'm sure it can be done.

have a look through some of the more extreme build threads for ideas, you will need links, coils, coil seats, shocks, nuts & bolts a metric fuckload of measuring & brain scratching.
Author:  appsie [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: coil conversion or 3+4 link on my stockmann
that was why i asked for or or in my first post :wink: as said it needs to be linked if you want to coil it unless your staying leaves with a helper coil OL SKOOL


what other specs do you have on the car or plans? why not stay leaves,build the more important bits like a cage and a winch etc first and see how you go driving a round?
is it lwb or short wheel base?

edit: just read stockman. Used to be a super sweet little lwb zuk in the winch scene a few years back on 31s and leaf springs. Worked well








string pullings gay :thefinger:
Author:  Red89 [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:44 pm ]
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Have a look through Gwagonsteve's build as he is running radius arms. Bear in mind the conversion isnt something a 'newbie' will be able to successfully do very easily and anyone that volunteers to 'help' you are likely to be doing most of the work whilst you get the beers.
Author:  zooky08 [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:22 pm ]
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Will this car be registed? If so id talk to a engineer before anything.
Author:  31zook [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 4:26 pm ]
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bring it to maitland and ill do it for you ;)
Author:  broken zook [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:03 pm ]
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It's a stock sj51t plans are
Coil conversion
V6 commi engine and trans
Luxi transfer case
33" simex
Chassie extension
Hi mount front low mount rear
4 point cage
Custom tube bar and tray
Tube sliders

That's it for now but I'm sure plans will change
Just want to build it right the first time so I don't spent lots of time and money in the
Future.

And please call me dan
Author:  atari4x4 [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: coil conversion or 3+4 link on my stockmann
should just buy a hilux & be done with it. :wink:
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: coil conversion or 3+4 link on my stockmann
atari4x4 wrote:
should just buy a hilux & be done with it. :wink:

x lots. There is no advantage starting with a Sierra, even if you own it.

Buy a hilux.

Steve.
Author:  Red89 [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:42 pm ]
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Check out the ccda regulations and work out what vehicle class you're aiming for, what restrictions there are for that class and whether that fits into local comp regs.
Author:  matty_wall [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 5:44 pm ]
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Sounds like you're going to ruin the best model sierra ever made :(
Author:  broken zook [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: coil conversion or 3+4 link on my stockmann
It's just a start for now when I get into it more I'll probably
Build something biger
Author:  atari4x4 [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:16 pm ]
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don't take this too personally, but with the questions you're asking.. you'll just end up ruining it.
Author:  broken zook [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:21 pm ]
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How and in what way
Author:  appsie [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:47 pm ]
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too many people are going to build a comp car,then it gets given up on half way through when it becomes too hard or doesnt work well. and in this case its maybe not the best start with some of your plans above. and anyone can cut up a car,but to then mod it better and to work is hard.

if your planning a v6 and auto id be changing the hilux case to a rover case but thats just me.

if you are planning a v6 and auto in a bodied winch truck id buy a hilux or buy a cheap patrol wagon and ute chop it,proven to be a better winch truck over n over

an internal cage to mmm's specs or whoever qld comps are under will be tight in a little stockman cab, you will find it very tight squeezing a auto in also.

i love the idea of a zuk in the winch field i really do and would love one myself to race against one of my best mates in his 45 and my cousin in his patrol but id keep one fairly simple n just have fun
Author:  Gwagensteve [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:57 pm ]
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So much truth there.

I love Suzuki's, but rules are rules. If you're building for a comp, the car doesn't matter. Only the rules matter.

Steve
Author:  appsie [ Fri Jan 18, 2013 6:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: coil conversion or 3+4 link on my stockmann
zookprojectfnq off here has a cool little winch zuk that he has been building n changing and improving for years now, its sweet

check it out. admittedly it is now copping a crazy motor and links with coilovers but where it was before is maybe a better start for you.
or look at Zook_fan little swb winch truck allthough it hasnt survived well its exactly how id want one and looks cool in a field of big rigs

But what you really want is a trol with a big boosted TB48 :wink:
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