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Author:  flipper [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 4:30 pm ]
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What do people recommend for lighting?
Was looking at some HID spotties but now i'm looking at LED bars.

Author:  douglasgiersch [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:07 pm ]
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Really all depends what type of country you drive, ie hilly windy country won't need pencil beam spoties that light up the road for 1k, if you drive in country occupied by our friendly long tailed jumping bastards a more spread beam would be required to spot them in the table drains, edges of roads ect. I personally drive skippy prone country so I will require more spread than most people, mates run 2x hid pencil beams and elcheapo halegon spots at the bottom of there bullbars pointing towards the gutters.
Doug

Author:  pezz [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:34 pm ]
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a pair of 7" hid's and a 22" light bar seams like a good combination from my experiance

Author:  Scales [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:00 pm ]
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yeah go for both.

Lightbars are awesome alright, but i dont reckon they have the throw that spotties have. LED are awesome at lighting up the road fringes though, and much better offroad as well.

Author:  shep [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:07 pm ]
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pezz wrote:
a pair of 7" hid's and a 22" light bar seams like a good combination from my experiance



Yep. Works awesome.

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Author:  bakerboy [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:21 pm ]
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got a set of 60w led "work lights" that would beat most spotties you'd be looking at in terms of price, but as mentioned, hid spots with a light bar is what i run

Author:  Dec [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:24 pm ]
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shep wrote:
pezz wrote:
a pair of 7" hid's and a 22" light bar seams like a good combination from my experiance



Yep. Works awesome.

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I agree go for the both, the combination of HID and Lightbar are unreal.

Author:  klutched [ Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:42 pm ]
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Scales wrote:
yeah go for both.

Lightbars are awesome alright, but i dont reckon they have the throw that spotties have. LED are awesome at lighting up the road fringes though, and much better offroad as well.


You won't get a light bar that throws further than spotties. The most you'll get out of a light bar will be around 300m MAX, but you will get reflections for 1000m+ and you can see the sides of the road really well.

Like people said, go for both. A light bar will give you 200-300 meters of light (Depending of size of bar) then you have 2 "SPOT" beams penetrating down the road 700-1000 meters.

Author:  flipper [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 12:37 am ]
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Mite have to get both. I'll wait till the TSOR bar arrives and ill play around with it.

Author:  Davidmacca [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 8:02 am ]
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If I buy the 7" hid pencil beam spotties what size light should I run with it?

Author:  klutched [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 9:37 am ]
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What size lightbar? Whatever fits your car/budget, most people run 20" on the bullbars above their spotties. Roof mounting people will mostly go for a 30" or 40".

Author:  Davidmacca [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 10:33 am ]
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Light bar I mean, yeah I will be mounting it ontop of the bullbar so if a 20" is good enough I'll get that

Author:  evski [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 4:28 pm ]
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LED is for spread not distance. Great for night drives in the bush, but not the best on the open road in terms of distance. HID and LED FTW...

Author:  bakerboy [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:11 pm ]
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The one on the left will give you plenty of distance, took me by surprise, will try and get a night shot of it
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Author:  joeblow [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:28 pm ]
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bakerboy wrote:
The one on the left will give you plenty of distance, took me by surprise, will try and get a night shot of it
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I'd rather go some good halogen or hid spotties over LED work lights.

Author:  bakerboy [ Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:39 pm ]
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So you've seen these in action then?

Author:  joeblow [ Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:22 pm ]
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LED lights that have 4 to 6 LED's such as those are great for general wheeling at night, or for use as work/ camping lights. Out on the open road they leave a little to be desired. Don't get me wrong LED's are the future and I run LED's but something that small would not be in the class of your average 9 to 10" spottie or driving light out on the open road. But I would still rather those for 4 wheeling at night.

Author:  bakerboy [ Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:17 pm ]
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9 or 10" spotties? Sweet jeebus of course not, but try fitting those on the sierra hahaha I'm just saying that these are quite surprising

Author:  whincup [ Fri Feb 01, 2013 7:58 pm ]
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i've seen 55w hid lightforce 210's combined with a 30" lightbar (or close to that size, dont know exact) and honestly you could not expect any better without the sun in the sky. best part, between those two you're drawing maybe 300-350w max between those, even a standard sierra alt could handle that.

Author:  joeblow [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:20 pm ]
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bakerboy wrote:
9 or 10" spotties? Sweet jeebus of course not, but try fitting those on the sierra


Your larger IPF's and Hellas are around the 9" mark and they do fit.

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But as you have done the minimum I would suggest would be 6 LED's per light.

Author:  flipper [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:20 pm ]
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How did those led lights go? They look massive can you get them in a 7"?

Author:  bakerboy [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:21 pm ]
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They are bullshit expensive, I'm actually surprised a zook owner would buy them hahaha

Author:  Red89 [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:37 pm ]
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shep wrote:
pezz wrote:
a pair of 7" hid's and a 22" light bar seams like a good combination from my experiance



Yep. Works awesome.

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Bare in mind in WA at least there is a rumour that the cops will have a hissy fit if your lights arent in pairs.

Author:  Zook_Fan [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:41 pm ]
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Same in QLD. However there is technically a grace period until September 2013 that police are not allowed to fine you for uneven LED bars/bars without dividers.

Author:  shep [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:00 pm ]
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My light bar is 20 pairs of lights

Author:  joeblow [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 3:42 pm ]
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That is an ADR that covers all of Aus. Lights have to be grouped in pairs (measurements are also part of it). Putting a 'divider' on a light bar is still not legal. But you won't hear people who sell you light bars tell you that.

Author:  bakerboy [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 4:12 pm ]
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Actually it is in WA, just has to be seen as two separate lights at 200m

Author:  Zook_Fan [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:25 pm ]
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shep wrote:
My light bar is 20 pairs of lights


Maybe in NT but in Qld according to the Department of transport it is one light. It's obviously the same as WA as per: http://www.tmr.qld.gov.au/~/media/Safet ... _lamps.pdf

Author:  flipper [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 5:43 pm ]
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How much are we talking about for the lights?

Author:  flipper [ Sat Feb 02, 2013 6:01 pm ]
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So if I ran 3 4" hids on the front is that illegal?

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