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Author:  sj80tourer [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:40 pm ]
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Hi

i recently bought a 96 sj80 sierra to replace my highly modified 2002 hilux www.4x4earth.com.au/forum/my-4wd/9379-t ... ted-5.html .

I`m looking at doing a engine conversion to help cope with the weight ill be carrying including a trailer,
the problem is i dont want to spend a fortune or put anything in too powerful that i starts breaking stuff , plans are 2"body 2" suspension 31`s twin locked low range gears n wide track transfer case and reduction gears , calmini roof rack, custom winch bar and custom rear swing away carrier , inside im keeping pretty much factory except for a waeco / cb and a large alpine sterio / ipad navagation .

So whats the best option i was thinking 13b twincam gti with a sc14 toyota supercharger or a jimny twincam with charger

Any suggetions welcome remember funds are tight due to other mods and mini caper trailer im building

Author:  Fatzook [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:44 pm ]
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sj80tourer wrote:
the problem is i dont want to spend a fortune or put anything in too powerful that i starts breaking stuff ,

So whats the best option i was thinking 13b twincam gti with a sc14 toyota supercharger or a jimny twincam with charger




These two statements are the most contradictary things I've read in years.

So to answer your question.....Standard G13b or standard G16b.

Author:  atari4x4 [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:47 pm ]
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:lol:

Author:  Rusho [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:49 pm ]
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Good luck with a front locker also, high pinion and there is nothing made to 'fit' the sj80 front :-(

Author:  Ace [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 5:59 pm ]
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so to clarify.

You sold a 10yo well modified 4wd that could tow a trailer for one 50% older that cant, and you want to build your new / old 4wd to be able to tow what your old one could - but you dont want to spend too much money doing it? Is that correct?

Author:  sj80tourer [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:04 pm ]
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3000 is my budget , and you can get very smooth power curves from a sc 14 , has anyone tryed mahining a sierra lokka to fit , i wAs told told you cant get power and reliability from a 5l diesel aswell anything can be done

Author:  joeblow [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:15 pm ]
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sj80tourer wrote:
has anyone tryed mahining a sierra lokka to fit


I'll leave the grammar alone. I have done the machining required for a front locker, but to do it again I would charge a lot, and because of Atari the extra cardboard costs are also pretty high. I think you need to do some more research. You have purchased, I think, the wrong model Sierra (or zook in general) to start with. Your budget is also low. Carrying extra weight in a Sierra is one thing, adding a trailer is another. Keep forced induction out of the equation if you want a reliable vehicle.

Author:  sj80tourer [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:29 pm ]
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Ace wrote:
so to clarify.

You sold a 10yo well modified 4wd that could tow a trailer for one 50% older that cant, and you want to build your new / old 4wd to be able to tow what your old one could - but you dont want to spend too much money doing it? Is that correct?


Hi ace ,Have u ever driven a highly modified hilux ? Mine was built as a toy basically a rego`d comp truck not anything that could be driven any long distance it was heavy on juice, hard for my missus to drive and was way to high to tow a trailer without a ridiculas hitch, i also recently lost my job so most of the toys had to go , so with the left over cash i bought the sj from my brother cheap 1000 bux .
Ive seen suzukis in the states towing campers thru the moab , anything can be done

Author:  atari4x4 [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:30 pm ]
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joeblow wrote:
sj80tourer wrote:
has anyone tryed mahining a sierra lokka to fit


I'll leave the grammar alone. I have done the machining required for a front locker, but to do it again I would charge a lot, and because of Atari the extra cardboard costs are also pretty high. I think you need to do some more research. You have purchased, I think, the wrong model Sierra (or zook in general) to start with. Your budget is also low. Carrying extra weight in a Sierra is one thing, adding a trailer is another. Keep forced induction out of the equation if you want a reliable vehicle.


is that cardboard assisted drafting (CAD) carboard or packaging shit cardboard? :? :lol:

i've got a metric truckload of good kwality packing card here if you need any, could load up a decent sized pallet load & send it over... it just get sent to the recyclers. :(

Author:  sj80tourer [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 6:40 pm ]
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There`s a couple of forced induction suzuki`s here in tas that are reliable , there is alot of smart arses on here yeah .3000 is my engine conversion budget, i`m looking at throwing at least 10 grand at this project , making things fit is my job or was mate im a fitter machinist by trade

Author:  Brenno [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:14 pm ]
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What part of tas are you from, what other forced induction zooks are reliable?

Author:  PORL [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:37 pm ]
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sj80tourer wrote:
Hi

i recently bought a 96 sj80 sierra to replace my highly modified 2002 hilux http://www.4x4earth.com.au/forum/my-4wd ... ted-5.html .

I`m looking at doing a engine conversion to help cope with the weight ill be carrying including a trailer,
the problem is i dont want to spend a fortune or put anything in too powerful that i starts breaking stuff , plans are 2"body 2" suspension 31`s twin locked low range gears n wide track transfer case and reduction gears , calmini roof rack, custom winch bar and custom rear swing away carrier , inside im keeping pretty much factory except for a waeco / cb and a large alpine sterio / ipad navagation .

So whats the best option i was thinking 13b twincam gti with a sc14 toyota supercharger or a jimny twincam with charger

Any suggetions welcome remember funds are tight due to other mods and mini caper trailer im building


HOLY SHIT. If you can do all that for 3 thousand ill be amazed!
Saying that I wish you the best of luck.

Edit: sorry I just saw you plan on spending 10k.
My suggestion, sell your SJ buy a pov pack Jimny and mod that. IMO

I just did a g16b conversion into my Jimny, it has heaps of power and wasn't very expensive to do.
Remember turbo or super chargers will cause mass fuel consumption, and zooks have small tanks.
Unless you use a long range, but that's more money.
Twin lockers will cost, not too sure about your model though.

Good luck

Author:  Matthew [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:40 pm ]
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Actually he said $10g, but will still struggle.

Author:  PORL [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:40 pm ]
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Edit^^

Author:  Red89 [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:53 pm ]
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sj80tourer wrote:
Ive seen suzukis in the states towing campers thru the moab , anything can be done

Have you got any pics or list of mods for the ones you have seen and were any of them a coily ?

Author:  CairnsZook [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:57 pm ]
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sj80tourer wrote:
There`s a couple of forced induction suzuki`s here in tas that are reliable , there is alot of smart arses on here yeah .3000 is my engine conversion budget, i`m looking at throwing at least 10 grand at this project , making things fit is my job or was mate im a fitter machinist by trade



Where abouts are you in Tassie? What sort of touring do you expect to do with this setup?
Is it purely "touring" towing a camper trailer? Play toy? Daily?


I've done a Baleno G16B conversion that I am very happy with. All up, cost about 2K.
You are welcome to contact me if you would like to have a look.



BTW: I know of ONE forced induction Sierra in the state. That's Brenno's old one. If anyone knows anything about supercharged Zooks - he's your man :wink:

Author:  superduki [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:20 pm ]
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CairnsZook wrote:
sj80tourer wrote:
There`s a couple of forced induction suzuki`s here in tas that are reliable , there is alot of smart arses on here yeah .3000 is my engine conversion budget, i`m looking at throwing at least 10 grand at this project , making things fit is my job or was mate im a fitter machinist by trade



Where abouts are you in Tassie? What sort of touring do you expect to do with this setup?
Is it purely "touring" towing a camper trailer? Play toy? Daily?


I've done a Baleno G16B conversion that I am very happy with. All up, cost about 2K.
You are welcome to contact me if you would like to have a look.



BTW: I know of ONE forced induction Sierra in the state. That's Brenno's old one. If anyone knows anything about supercharged Zooks - he's your man :wink:




*Edit - 2..... His current build is FORCED induction too...... :P

Author:  Fatzook [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:13 pm ]
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sj80tourer wrote:
there is alot of smart arses on here yeah



yes, there is.

But you asked what 'the best' conversion would be, that 'doesn't break stuff', and for the sake of budget, reliability, and drivability, the G16B is hands down the best option.

You could always throw boost at it later should you feel the need, but to be honest, a properly geared sierra with a G16B is great for just about everything.

Author:  sj80tourer [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:34 pm ]
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superduki wrote:
CairnsZook wrote:
sj80tourer wrote:
There`s a couple of forced induction suzuki`s here in tas that are reliable , there is alot of smart arses on here yeah .3000 is my engine conversion budget, i`m looking at throwing at least 10 grand at this project , making things fit is my job or was mate im a fitter machinist by trade



Where abouts are you in Tassie? What sort of touring do you expect to do with this setup?
Is it purely "touring" towing a camper trailer? Play toy? Daily?


I've done a Baleno G16B conversion that I am very happy with. All up, cost about 2K.
You are welcome to contact me if you would like to have a look.



BTW: I know of ONE forced induction Sierra in the state. That's Brenno's old one. If anyone knows anything about supercharged Zooks - he's your man :wink:




*Edit - 2..... His current build is FORCED induction too...... :P


Thanks mate im in launceston , touring i just want to do short trips with the missus say weekenders to the vic high country an stuff like that maybe the cape if i can get it set up right , g16b sounds the go whats involved ? Love to come have look some time where abouts are you ?

Author:  sj80tourer [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:36 pm ]
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Matthew wrote:
Actually he said $10g, but will still struggle.


I`ll be doing it all myself so10g will be a breeze , and i have access to a full fabrication workshop may even get out of it cheaper

Author:  sj80tourer [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 2:41 pm ]
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Brenno wrote:
What part of tas are you from, what other forced induction zooks are reliable?

Hi brenno theres a 93 model with a jimny 1.3 conversion in devonport running a supercharger and another holden drover with a g13b 16v gti witha turbo in launceston thats driven every day .

Author:  Brenno [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:26 pm ]
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That red hardtop is my old supercharged jinny motor. It was pretty slap together and if done again I would just go g16b. There's nothing wrong with it as superduki off here drove the fucker to qld and back.

Author:  Ace [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 4:58 pm ]
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sj80tourer wrote:
Ace wrote:
so to clarify.

You sold a 10yo well modified 4wd that could tow a trailer for one 50% older that cant, and you want to build your new / old 4wd to be able to tow what your old one could - but you dont want to spend too much money doing it? Is that correct?


Hi ace ,Have u ever driven a highly modified hilux ? Mine was built as a toy basically a rego`d comp truck not anything that could be driven any long distance it was heavy on juice, hard for my missus to drive and was way to high to tow a trailer without a ridiculas hitch, i also recently lost my job so most of the toys had to go , so with the left over cash i bought the sj from my brother cheap 1000 bux .
Ive seen suzukis in the states towing campers thru the moab , anything can be done



Time or money and yes anything can be done..... Havn't been in a road reg comp truck but been in my mates v8 hilux non reg - comp truck and then his sas'ed dozel surf (also no reg)...

Author:  sj80tourer [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:37 pm ]
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has anyone in Australia done the acme vw 1.9 diesel swap

Author:  Fatzook [ Wed Feb 27, 2013 8:49 pm ]
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sj80tourer wrote:
has anyone in Australia done the acme vw 1.9 diesel swap



Probably. But seing as the engine required for the swap was never sold here, they would have imported it. $$$$$$$$$$

Author:  sj80tourer [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:28 pm ]
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Today is sad day for my sj while i was at work some low life decided they needed it more thn me . As th dickhed was leaving the carpark (pushing out ) so he didnt make noise i guess secruity gaurd spotted him an he jumped out letting it roll back wards , the problem is im working on a housing estate that is on a large hill and a river at the bottom, my car rolled backwards over a bank fell 3mtrs onto its left rear corner then rolled few times until it hit wall , she its now a write off even the chassis id bent upwards th front smashed and none of the doors aligned , floors twisted and the roof has kinked , bye bye sj ...................pics tomorrow now the search for a vitara begines

Author:  sj80tourer [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:28 pm ]
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Today is sad day for my sj while i was at work some low life decided they needed it more thn me . As th dickhed was leaving the carpark (pushing out ) so he didnt make noise i guess secruity gaurd spotted him an he jumped out letting it roll back wards , the problem is im working on a housing estate that is on a large hill and a river at the bottom, my car rolled backwards over a bank fell 3mtrs onto its left rear corner then rolled few times until it hit wall , she its now a write off even the chassis id bent upwards th front smashed and none of the doors aligned , floors twisted and the roof has kinked , bye bye sj ...................pics tomorrow now the search for a vitara begines

Author:  Fatzook [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:46 pm ]
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Sad.

Gonna need pics though!

Author:  PORL [ Thu Feb 28, 2013 10:50 pm ]
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Get a Jimny... FTW
And yeah I'm keen for pics or it never happened lol

Author:  sj80tourer [ Sun Mar 03, 2013 9:58 am ]
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Having trouble uploading pics to my tablet

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