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the yankies call a panhard rod a track bar some times, but that's definately a watts linkage set up (same design was used on the old V8 supercars)

the ones on the RTV are to stop axle tramp & run from the chassis near the front leaf hanger to the axle.

yeah track bar/traction bar/anti wrap bar = same thing.

those ones look like ground anchors to me :lol:

yeah track bar/traction bar/anti wrap bar = same thing.

atari4x4 wrote:

yeah track bar/traction bar/anti wrap bar = same thing.

Nope! Track bar is to stop lateral movement. Traction and anti-wrap to stop the springs loading/unloading. Not the same thing :thefinger:

Post up the RTV setup already!

can you please take pics of the rear track bar set up on the leaf springs...

ones on the RTV are to stop axle tramp & run from the chassis near the front leaf hanger to the axle.

Wonder how much that setup would bind under flex?

Author:	atari4x4 [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 8:10 am ]
Post subject:	Ford RTV ute traction bar
can you please take pics of the rear track bar set up on the leaf springs...

Author:	suzitough [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:18 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Ford RTV ute in vgc vic
haha yer not a problem making your own?

Author:	atari4x4 [ Mon Feb 25, 2013 9:30 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Ford RTV ute in vgc vic
nah not for me, there is a track bar thread on here somewhere & i've seen a few RTV's on the road & noticed the setup that they run & mentioned it in the thread. since i mentioned it, i've never been able to find one parked so i could take some spy shots of them. would appreciate the pics if you get a chance & good luck with the sale.

Author:	want33s [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:45 am ]
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Mate of mine has one Gus. I'll get some pics this weekend.

Author:	bohuler [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 7:43 am ]
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This is the rear track bar off a ford gus if its what you were after. Yes it is on a commodor, yes it is coil sprung but from what i know of the car i think that its off a leafy ford. There was orginally only 1 track bar but it was pushing the car sideways out of corners to much, with this setup the corner exit speed can be kept faster and no where near as much drift. Dave sorry for the hijack! g/l with the sale mate

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Author:	atari4x4 [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:58 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Ford RTV ute in vgc vic
ummm that's a watts linkage.

Author:	bohuler [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:06 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Ford RTV ute in vgc vic
??? there we go learnt something today. i've been calling them track bars for weeks and never knew cheers gus

Author:	atari4x4 [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:19 am ]
Post subject:	Re: Ford RTV ute track bar
the yankies call a panhard rod a track bar some times, but that's definately a watts linkage set up (same design was used on the old V8 supercars) the ones on the RTV are to stop axle tramp & run from the chassis near the front leaf hanger to the axle.

Author:	shep [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:13 pm ]
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Even the crappy shitbox limo had a watts link, I think all the shitty coil falcons use them.

Author:	atari4x4 [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:18 pm ]
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yeah the coon carriers have had watts linkages for years, the good thing about them is you don't get the lateral movement on compression like you do with a panhard rod set up & thanks for splitting this out of the forsale thread.

Author:	droverdave [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:21 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Ford RTV ute track bar
atari4x4 wrote: the yankies call a panhard rod a track bar some times, but that's definately a watts linkage set up (same design was used on the old V8 supercars) the ones on the RTV are to stop axle tramp & run from the chassis near the front leaf hanger to the axle. Isnt that generally refered to as a "Traction bar"? Essentailly to stop the leaf spring from turning into an "S" and then springing back into a straight spring again causing the lovely axel tramp type effects. like this http://image.off-roadweb.com/f/8279936/ ... on_Bar.jpg

Author:	atari4x4 [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:23 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Ford RTV ute track bar
yeah track bar/traction bar/anti wrap bar = same thing. those ones look like ground anchors to me

Author:	Fatzook [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:38 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Ford RTV ute track bar
atari4x4 wrote: yeah track bar/traction bar/anti wrap bar = same thing. those ones look like ground anchors to me Also known as Caltracs in the racing scene.

Author:	JrZook [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:48 pm ]
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atari4x4 wrote: yeah track bar/traction bar/anti wrap bar = same thing. Nope! Track bar is to stop lateral movement. Traction and anti-wrap to stop the springs loading/unloading. Not the same thing Post up the RTV setup already!

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Author:	atari4x4 [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:50 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Ford RTV ute track bar
JrZook wrote: atari4x4 wrote: yeah track bar/traction bar/anti wrap bar = same thing. Nope! Track bar is to stop lateral movement. Traction and anti-wrap to stop the springs loading/unloading. Not the same thing Post up the RTV setup already! close enough. atari4x4 wrote: can you please take pics of the rear track bar set up on the leaf springs...

Author:	JrZook [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:53 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Ford RTV ute track bar
atari4x4 wrote: ones on the RTV are to stop axle tramp & run from the chassis near the front leaf hanger to the axle. Traction bar! You are confusing!

Author:	Red89 [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:27 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Ford RTV ute traction bar
http://www.fordmods.com/post854501.html http://www.malwoodauto.com.au/index.php ... mp_rod_kit Looks easily adaptable.

Author:	atari4x4 [ Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:35 pm ]
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the RTV was set up very similar to that, but obviously more factory looking with bushed trac rods (see what i did there Jnr)

Author:	want33s [ Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:20 pm ]
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Pics as promised.

Author:	atari4x4 [ Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:28 pm ]
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thanks Jas all i saw was the front spring hanger assembly, that gives me a better idea of what was going on. NFI if that style of traction bar would work in the back of a sierra though, is there enough "outboarding" of the rear springs in a WT to be able to run that sort of set up & clear the chassis rails?

Author:	JrZook [ Sat Mar 02, 2013 9:43 pm ]
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Wonder how much that setup would bind under flex?

Author:	atari4x4 [ Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:21 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Ford RTV ute traction bar
build it with heim joints... couldn't be any worse than the caltracs on aliens thing

Author:	want33s [ Sat Mar 02, 2013 11:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: Ford RTV ute traction bar
JrZook wrote: Wonder how much that setup would bind under flex? The closer the traction bar is to the spring the less negative effect it will have on flex (droop), however this comes at the cost of reduced ability to control axle wrap... Everything on a car is a compromise.