fordem wrote:
Personally I would say they both have their place.
Yep, Like say, to be used as suspension components?
I used rubber bush's and smeared any parts that touch each other with rubber grease.
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| Author: | nicko27 [ Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Suspension Bush Question |
Just putting new suspension bushes on my sierra. The kit comes with a little bag full of white grease/lube. Do i put this on the outside of the bush where it rubs against the spring and the chassis or on the inside where it rubs against the bolt, or both? |
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| Author: | upgarage [ Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspention Bush Question |
General consensus = dont use at all Grease attracts sand. Sand + rubber + moving parts = bad |
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| Author: | Matthew [ Fri Mar 15, 2013 8:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspention Bush Question |
I don't know who General Consensus is, but I disagree. Poly bushes get greased. Rubber don't, but a small amount of the correct type of grease makes assembly so much easier. |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspention Bush Question |
Matthew wrote: I don't know who General Consensus is, but I disagree. Poly bushes get greased. Rubber don't, but a small amount of the correct type of grease makes assembly so much easier. quoted for truth cause i'm not the general consensus. |
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| Author: | fordem [ Fri Mar 15, 2013 9:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspention Bush Question |
I'm with Matthew on this - if they are polyurethane, grease them on the inside where the bolt passes through. |
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| Author: | upgarage [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 2:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspention Bush Question |
Poly is a poor choice IMHO Rubber all the way |
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| Author: | fordem [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 3:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspention Bush Question |
Rubber is standard OEM because it's cheap and it works, but almost every aftermarket suspension vendor either supplies poly as standard practice or offers it as an option - is there something they know that you don't? Personally I would say they both have their place. |
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| Author: | buzbox [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspention Bush Question |
fordem wrote: Personally I would say they both have their place. Yep, Like say, to be used as suspension components? I used rubber bush's and smeared any parts that touch each other with rubber grease. |
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| Author: | mnemonix [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspention Bush Question |
upgarage wrote: Poly is a poor choice IMHO Rubber all the way I'm sure Bruce will chime in here eventually as our resident poly guru. Poly isn't Poly. The various grades can have a huge impact on performance and longevity. Just because you've had a bad experience with Poly bushes it would be very remiss of you to write them off entirely. They're a perfectly practical, durable and well performing solution if you use the correct ones for your intended usage. |
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| Author: | nicko27 [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 6:41 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspention Bush Question |
Thanks for the info guys |
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| Author: | atari4x4 [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspention Bush Question |
upgarage wrote: Poly is a poor choice IMHO Rubber all the way can you find me a full set of replacement bushes that aren't poly for the calmini 3" vitara lift? |
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| Author: | Bruce [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspention Bush Question |
Matthew wrote: I don't know who General Consensus is, but I disagree. Poly bushes get greased. Rubber don't, but a small amount of the correct type of grease makes assembly so much easier. Correct Matthew. |
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| Author: | 303zuke [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspention Bush Question |
atari4x4 wrote: Matthew wrote: I don't know who General Consensus is, but I disagree. Poly bushes get greased. quoted for truth cause i'm not the general consensus. General Consensus outranks Major Problem, and both outrank Captain Obvious, but Captain Obvious says use Castrol LMM grease on inner and outer surfaces of Poly bushes, and soapy water only to fit Rubber bushes. Do this, or Corporal Punishment will come down hard on your Privates. |
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| Author: | Bruce [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 10:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspention Bush Question |
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| Author: | upgarage [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspention Bush Question |
harsh, brittle and 4x the price. any more benefits for poly? |
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| Author: | Scrawny [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspention Bush Question |
upgarage wrote: harsh, brittle and 4x the price. any more benefits for poly? You missed this post mnemonix wrote: I'm sure Bruce will chime in here eventually as our resident poly guru.
Poly isn't Poly. The various grades can have a huge impact on performance and longevity. Just because you've had a bad experience with Poly bushes it would be very remiss of you to write them off entirely. They're a perfectly practical, durable and well performing solution if you use the correct ones for your intended usage. |
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| Author: | Gwagensteve [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspension Bush Question |
They don't have to be harsh or brittle. I've fitted some bruce bushes (I think they were from bruce) and they are approximately as soft as rubber. I haven't put any driving on them so I can't comment on lifespan, but they're certainly soft. Steve. |
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| Author: | Red89 [ Sat Mar 16, 2013 12:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspension Bush Question |
I got the same performance, flex and comfort wise, out of both Suzistore rubber and Bluemax poly but the poly ones lasted about 3 times as long. |
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| Author: | jimny_timmy [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspension Bush Question |
Gwagensteve wrote: They don't have to be harsh or brittle. I've fitted some bruce bushes (I think they were from bruce) and they are approximately as soft as rubber. I haven't put any driving on them so I can't comment on lifespan, but they're certainly soft. Steve. Does Bruce still have some of these bushes? |
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| Author: | Scrawny [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:06 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspension Bush Question |
jimny_timmy wrote: Gwagensteve wrote: They don't have to be harsh or brittle. I've fitted some bruce bushes (I think they were from bruce) and they are approximately as soft as rubber. I haven't put any driving on them so I can't comment on lifespan, but they're certainly soft. Steve. Does Bruce still have some of these bushes? Pm him
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| Author: | royce [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspension Bush Question |
I had Bruce make me poly bushes so soft I could make the fixed end of the spring twist till it touched the bolt  Pink too |
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| Author: | SierraDan [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspension Bush Question |
Ive had zero issues with poly. Its only when you jam a shackle into the rocks that you peel off a bit of the mushroomed part, but you get that
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| Author: | jimny_timmy [ Sun Mar 17, 2013 10:54 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Suspension Bush Question |
royce wrote: I had Bruce make me poly bushes so soft I could make the fixed end of the spring twist till it touched the bolt Pink too  I might pm him about some pink ones 
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