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Author:  upgarage [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:55 pm ]
Post subject:  WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

Is this possible?

I have read thread numerous threads but there is no distinction between 1.0L NT and 1.3L NT which add to the confusion.

I have a 1.0L NT sierra
I want to put 1.3L WT diffs in while retaining the current 4.11 diff ratios i have now. I already have bigger tyres than standard so the car is already geared down. Utilising the 3.7 ratios from the WT diffs will make this worse

Thanks

Author:  sideways [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

WT Marutis have 4.11:1 diff ratios in a 1.3l size. They're a bit rare, but they'l do exactly what you want. They must be from a WT Maruti, NT ones have 1l diffs. You cannot use the gears from a 1l diff.

Another option would be using Vitara front diff R&Ps. They're anywhere from 4.3 to 5.12. You could also use 1.3l NT gears which are 3.9:1.

Author:  upgarage [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

LEGEND
Thanks for the info, exactly what im after.

Seems my only option then is to buy an aftermarket gearset or go the vitara R&P route as I do not want to reduce the ratio at all

Author:  sideways [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

No worries. If you go door knocking on farms it wouldn't be to hard to find a dead WT Maruti. :)

Author:  Fatzook [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

sideways wrote:
No worries. If you go door knocking on farms it wouldn't be to hard to find a dead WT Maruti. :)



Good luck getting a farmer to part with it though. They'll fix it oneday you know. :wink:

Author:  sideways [ Thu Mar 21, 2013 11:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

Fatzook wrote:
sideways wrote:
No worries. If you go door knocking on farms it wouldn't be to hard to find a dead WT Maruti. :)



Good luck getting a farmer to part with it though. They'll fix it oneday you know. :wink:


I resemble that comment. :oops:

Do some work for them in exchange for stuff. Always works.

Author:  Critical Energy [ Fri Mar 22, 2013 8:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

I'm so confused.


Whats a Maruti?
I got a Sierra Ute (I think, it was sold to me as a stockman) and I have no idea what is what any more.

Rich

Author:  sideways [ Fri Mar 22, 2013 10:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

A maruti is an Indian built LWB Sierra. They were sold here after Suzuki stopped selling LWB Sierras.

There are 2 diffent types of Stockman. The last models of LJ were called Stockmans. Marutis are also called Stockmans, supposedly only traybacks were called Stockmans but practically every styleside I've seen has been badged as a Stockman.

If the year under your name is right then your is not a Stockman as it's a genuine Suzuki Sierra LWB. Specifically, yours is an SJ41.

A lot of people call all trayback Suzukis Stockmans, it's a very common misconception.

Author:  Fatzook [ Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

sideways wrote:
A lot of people call all trayback Suzukis Stockmans, it's a very common misconception.



The LAST stockman was an LJ. AFAIK, suzuki never released any sierra stockmans. These were sticker packs fitted at the dealerships to appeal to the farmers who had fallen in love with the light weight, agile and highly capable LJ stockmans. Its like how suzuki slapped the sierra badge onto the back of a jimny in a vain attempt to imply that the jimny was in some way comparable to the offroad capabilities of its predecessor.

Sierras build code starts with SJ, maruti build code starts with MG. Simple.

Author:  303zuke [ Fri Mar 22, 2013 11:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

sideways wrote:
If the year under your name is right then your is not a Stockman as it's a genuine Suzuki Sierra LWB. Specifically, yours is an SJ40T.

Fixed for you.

While the Ute version of the LJ80 was a LJ81, and the 1.3 Sierra Ute was an SJ51, the 1.0lt Ute was oddly called the SJ40T.

Author:  upgarage [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:13 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

to add to the confusion

As per my build plate. My LWB NT maruti has the MG410WT chassis code but is complianced as a suzuki sierra
1993 model with factory f10a and 4spd

Author:  Critical Energy [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:27 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

Ah cool, sorry i'm new, god this is going to take some getting my head around.

So will the WT diffs go into the NT ute with the same mods etc? Actually i'll post up in another thread


Rich

Author:  elky [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 7:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

upgarage wrote:
to add to the confusion

As per my build plate. My LWB NT maruti has the MG410WT chassis code but is complianced as a suzuki sierra
1993 model with factory f10a and 4spd


yea i just got a "suzuki maruti" as it says on the rego label, mine is also a 93 with same engine and box, nt with rubber flares and a steel tray, found a mg410wt badge in the glovebox, when did they start importing them with 1.3's and wide track diffs?

got some braced wt diffs with perches to suit nt and 5.1 gears to go in Armsup

Author:  Fatzook [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

elky wrote:
when did they start importing them with 1.3's



Never. No such thing as a factory 1.3L maruti in Australia.

Author:  Fatzook [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 8:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

Critical Energy wrote:

So will the WT diffs go into the NT ute with the same mods etc? Actually i'll post up in another thread


Rich



Yes. It all goes in the same, except that you will need the NT 1.3L u-bolts and spring plates, and you will need to change your driveshafts to suit the 1.3L pinion flange.

Author:  elky [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:59 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

Fatzook wrote:
elky wrote:
when did they start importing them with 1.3's



Never. No such thing as a factory 1.3L maruti in Australia.


Seen some advertised with wt flares that looked original, just assumed a few made it here

Author:  jimbo_jones [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

elky wrote:
Fatzook wrote:
elky wrote:
when did they start importing them with 1.3's



Never. No such thing as a factory 1.3L maruti in Australia.


Seen some advertised with wt flares that looked original, just assumed a few made it here



nope they were all w/t 1ltrs

Author:  Fatzook [ Sat Mar 23, 2013 11:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: WT diffs into 1.0L NT while retaining 4.11 diff ratios

elky wrote:
Fatzook wrote:
elky wrote:
when did they start importing them with 1.3's



Never. No such thing as a factory 1.3L maruti in Australia.


Seen some advertised with wt flares that looked original, just assumed a few made it here


The WT flares ARE original. But ALL Aussie delivered Maruti's are 1L motor.

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