carefull with the quality of welding or royce and joe will cane your arse
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| Author: | Mike [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 8:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Ruf shackle mounts |
i'm looking at moving my front shackle mounts forward so i can use shorter shackles but i was wondering will this give me more or less travel and how far should the mounts be moved foward? Cheers Mike |
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| Author: | steve [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
carefull with the quality of welding or royce and joe will cane your arse
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| Author: | Mike [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
don't worry it won't be me welding it although i do think my gassless mig skills are upto the task
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| Author: | steve [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
we want to see sample welding photos 
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| Author: | Mike [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 9:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
i will post welding pics if someone gives me the infomation i need |
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| Author: | zookernator [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
Mike wrote: i'm looking at moving my front shackle mounts forward so i can use shorter shackles but i was wondering will this give me more or less travel and how far should the mounts be moved foward?
Cheers Mike Im about to do this myself.. so i'll be watching this thread closely!!
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| Author: | Mike [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
zookernator wrote: Mike wrote: i'm looking at moving my front shackle mounts forward so i can use shorter shackles but i was wondering will this give me more or less travel and how far should the mounts be moved foward? Cheers Mike Im about to do this myself.. so i'll be watching this thread closely!! what i have to do it first so you can learn from my mistakes? |
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| Author: | Damo [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
steve wrote: carefull with the quality of welding or royce and joe will cane your arse
Next you'll be telling me that Sikaflex is not appropriate for this application! |
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| Author: | zookernator [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
Mike wrote: zookernator wrote: Mike wrote: i'm looking at moving my front shackle mounts forward so i can use shorter shackles but i was wondering will this give me more or less travel and how far should the mounts be moved foward? Cheers Mike Im about to do this myself.. so i'll be watching this thread closely!! what i have to do it first so you can learn from my mistakes? hahahaha.. we can share!!
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| Author: | royce [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 10:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
work out how long the spring is along the leaf, work out how long you want your shackle and whats the max angle you want the shackle to be under (I think about 60degrees they can invert) then some maths to work it out will tell you how far apart the mounts need to be, simple or just figure how much longer than stock they are and move it that much, doubt youll lose any flex |
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| Author: | Mike [ Mon Feb 02, 2009 11:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
wouldn't i loose down travel with shorter shackles and the mounts moved forward? |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 12:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
possible but the spring might have more flex in it if alowed to drop more freely and for how it was designed with smaller shackles. you will also loose a bit of hieght but that is obvious |
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| Author: | royce [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:08 am ] |
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unless you can make the shackle point at the diff on full droop then I very much doubt it |
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| Author: | Mike [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
so how much further forward should the front mounts be then? |
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| Author: | royce [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
royce wrote: work out how long the spring is along the leaf, work out how long you want your shackle and whats the max angle you want the shackle to be under (I think about 60degrees they can invert)
then some maths to work it out will tell you how far apart the mounts need to be, simple or just figure how much longer than stock they are and move it that much, doubt youll lose any flex |
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| Author: | Mike [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
haha what is the maths involved? what i meant to ask was what setups have people used before that worked well? |
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| Author: | royce [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
I think 3" is the common amount |
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| Author: | Damo [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
Since you're using a rear spring, wouldnt you just measure how far apart the spring and shackle hangers are in the rear and make the front the same? |
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| Author: | Mike [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
Damo wrote: Since you're using a rear spring, wouldnt you just measure how far apart the spring and shackle hangers are in the rear and make the front the same?
but wouldn't that make the front flex like the rear does standard? |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:07 am ] |
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yeah but with more weight over it |
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| Author: | Mike [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 3:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
how is that benefictial? are there any benefits of having a chassis extention over having longer shackles? |
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| Author: | Damo [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 11:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
Damo wrote: but wouldn't that make the front flex like the rear does standard? The distance that these are apart isn't really what is affecting wheel travel. It's the spring rate and the fact you've got a longer main leaf. Mike wrote: how is that benefictial? are there any benefits of having a chassis extention over having longer shackles?
Usually you will get droop with longer shackles. The benefit of going with a chassis extension is that you can keep the stock shackles. Some may not see it as a benefit, YMMV. |
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| Author: | Mike [ Tue Feb 03, 2009 9:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
so really chassis extentions only benefit ride quailty and on road performance? |
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| Author: | royce [ Wed Feb 04, 2009 12:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
shorter shackles are a shit load more stable, better approach angle too |
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| Author: | Zook_Fan [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
what about getting one of these: http://www.rocky-road.com/ruf.html it wouldnt cost much to make and once you've made one you can put up the dimensions sto show us all how to do it 
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| Author: | Mike [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 3:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
that kit looks good but i think i'm gonna go another way |
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| Author: | zookernator [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 11:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
Mike wrote: that kit looks good but i think i'm gonna go another way
hehe, your not keeping secrets are you mike
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| Author: | Mike [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 4:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
zookernator wrote: Mike wrote: that kit looks good but i think i'm gonna go another way hehe, your not keeping secrets are you mike haha your just jealous that your not the only person who knows about it anymore |
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| Author: | zookernator [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 5:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
Mike wrote: zookernator wrote: Mike wrote: that kit looks good but i think i'm gonna go another way hehe, your not keeping secrets are you mike haha your just jealous that your not the only person who knows about it anymore  hahaha
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| Author: | Mike [ Thu Feb 05, 2009 6:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Ruf shackle mounts |
zookernator wrote: Mike wrote: zookernator wrote: Mike wrote: that kit looks good but i think i'm gonna go another way hehe, your not keeping secrets are you mike haha your just jealous that your not the only person who knows about it anymore hahahahaha to make you feel special i'll tell you later what i find out today |
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