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coily96

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Joined: Wed May 05, 2010 11:50 am Posts: 823 Location: Beenleigh
Vehicle: Coil Sierra
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 Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:03 pm |
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Since fitting a 1L case to my sj80 ive noticed the jackshaft and input flange has a bit of play when turning the shaft back and forward by hand. When driving either selecting gears or loading up the driveline it makes a clunk when the shaft is under load. Ive Had the tcase shifter boot off and can see the shaft/uni/flange spin when the clutch is let out apon taking off, when you press the clutch back in it spins the opposite way a fraction.
Is this because the case is gear driven or something internal is worn out?
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JrZook
Joined: Tue Aug 08, 2006 11:30 pm Posts: 5517 Location: Holland Park
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 Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 10:54 pm |
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Most likely the thrust washers on the countershaft are worn.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:14 am |
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Which direction is the play in?
Some clunking is normal with a gear drive case, but JR may well be right- it could well need a freshen up.
Steve.
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coily96

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 Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:01 pm |
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Both ways but more clockwise
Noticed the noise is more noticeable as the rubber boot is off.
I also noticed when coasting along out of gear or clutch in it also has a rattle that changes with speed, going to change the fluid to be safe.
On another note what order does the selector stick, spring and bush go? I went to fit a new bush and there wasnt a bush inside to start with.
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Gwagensteve
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:30 pm Posts: 13007 Location: Melbourne
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 Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:22 pm |
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Ahh.. you mean the play is torsional - i.e when you twist the input shaft.
I wouldn't worry about that too much. It will have WAY more play than the original coil transfer, due to the difference in design between chain and gears.
The rattle could be due to a heap of things. Leaving the shifter boot off can make the shifter rattle, dust shields on the yokes can rattle, and worn unis can cause a rattle. I'd be surprised if changing the oil will make much difference.
Chain drive cases are much quieter, that's why suzuki swapped to the chain case in the coil Sierra. It's impossible to tell you if the play or noises are unusual over the interwebs, as you'd imagine.
If in doubt, by all means throw a rebuild kit through the case, It's not hard, but don't expect it to every match the smoothness of the coil case.
Bush goes in the case, followed by selector, then spring, then cover that twists into place to lock the stick in. If this isn't right you'll have a rattle from the lever for sure if the robber boot has been removed on the trans tunnel.
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coily96

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 Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:31 am |
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coily96

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 Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:24 pm |
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Is there a trick to fitting the cover that fits into place?
I managed to just fit the new bush in as it wouldnt go past the two slots that the cover locks onto, then put stick, spring and now cant lock the top peice into place. I knew i should have fitted the bush when the transfer was on the ground.
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